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    MD_Clarke_Hicks
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    Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
    I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
    Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
    Thanks in advance

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    • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

      Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
      I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
      Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
      Thanks in advance

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      Rob Veerman
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      @MD_Clarke_Hicks Plotting is done in OSM, TomTom or Here (not in Google Maps), depending on the map you have chosen.

      Google Maps is used as an overlay, not as a map to plot routes. It is another way of looking at the data and display of the map that is used for plotting. Other overlays (more ways of looking at the map) are also possible.

      It is possible to use Google Streetview to check the plotted route. Just click the Streetview button on the map (left side).

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      • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

        Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
        I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
        Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
        Thanks in advance

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        Rob Veerman
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        #3

        @MD_Clarke_Hicks It's not an answer to your question, but good to know: if you have received a route that is made e.g. in the Map used by TomTom, you can compare how the route would be in the Here or OSM map by using Toolkit/Compare route and there you can resolve any differences (but you still can't use the official Google Map, that's just an overlay).

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        • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

          Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
          I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
          Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
          Thanks in advance

          Nick Carthewundefined Online
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          Nick Carthew
          RouteXpert
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @MD_Clarke_Hicks said in Conversion with Google Maps/Zumo XT:

          Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
          I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
          Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
          Thanks in advance

          The message you receive is because you are using the Open StreetMap as the planning map with motorcycle chosen as your transport mode.
          You need to use the HERE planning map for exporting to your Garmin. The Google Map is an overlay map. Think of the overlay maps as clear sheets with extra information that you place over the top of the planning map.

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            @MD_Clarke_Hicks said in Conversion with Google Maps/Zumo XT:

            Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
            I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
            Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
            Thanks in advance

            The message you receive is because you are using the Open StreetMap as the planning map with motorcycle chosen as your transport mode.
            You need to use the HERE planning map for exporting to your Garmin. The Google Map is an overlay map. Think of the overlay maps as clear sheets with extra information that you place over the top of the planning map.

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            MD_Clarke_Hicks
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            @Nick-Carthew ok thanks, so if i use the Here Maps to plan and save the route, when I export, ready to send to Garmin Drive, which version should i use? GPX1.0, 1.1 or 1.2?
            Thanks

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            • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

              @Nick-Carthew ok thanks, so if i use the Here Maps to plan and save the route, when I export, ready to send to Garmin Drive, which version should i use? GPX1.0, 1.1 or 1.2?
              Thanks

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              Marinus van Deudekom
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              @MD_Clarke_Hicks use the Here map. Make shure that all the viapoints and shapingpoints are exactly ON the route. Export it using the Drive app file format 1.2
              If the points are not placed Wright the XT will mess up the route. Be shure that you have placed a routingpoint every 4 or 5 km, depending on the road type

              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
              Honda Silverwing GL 650
              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
              Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
              Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                @MD_Clarke_Hicks use the Here map. Make shure that all the viapoints and shapingpoints are exactly ON the route. Export it using the Drive app file format 1.2
                If the points are not placed Wright the XT will mess up the route. Be shure that you have placed a routingpoint every 4 or 5 km, depending on the road type

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                MD_Clarke_Hicks
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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom great thanks for the tip, i think i was possibly also leaving too bigger gaps between points.👍

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                • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom great thanks for the tip, i think i was possibly also leaving too bigger gaps between points.👍

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                  Marinus van Deudekom
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                  @MD_Clarke_Hicks The XT has a way of it's own looking at imported routes. You'll have to force the thing to do what you want it to do. 🙂

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

                    @Nick-Carthew ok thanks, so if i use the Here Maps to plan and save the route, when I export, ready to send to Garmin Drive, which version should i use? GPX1.0, 1.1 or 1.2?
                    Thanks

                    Nick Carthewundefined Online
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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXpert
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @MD_Clarke_Hicks exporting as 1.2 will only show the via points (hand shape). 1.1 will show shaping (balloon shape) and via points.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                    • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                      @MD_Clarke_Hicks exporting as 1.2 will only show the via points (hand shape). 1.1 will show shaping (balloon shape) and via points.

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                      MD_Clarke_Hicks
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                      @Nick-Carthew ok thanks, so 1.1 is the one to use?

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                      • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

                        @Nick-Carthew ok thanks, so 1.1 is the one to use?

                        Nick Carthewundefined Online
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                        Nick Carthew
                        RouteXpert
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @MD_Clarke_Hicks 1.1 is the version I would use, others prefer 1.2. It depends on how you’ve created your route. If you have used several via points for coffee and lunch stops and maybe some scenic viewpoints, using a 1.2 might suffice. Now that you know the difference, have a play around.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        • MD_Clarke_Hicksundefined MD_Clarke_Hicks

                          Newbie using MRA, grateful for some help, having some issues in using Google Maps as plotting map on the website and then downloading and exporting to Drive for Zumo XT, sometimes works, but not always, and if I re-open a route on the website it says "Only works in Tom Tom" very briefly when I open the route.
                          I have been saving as GPX 1.1 is that correct?
                          Any pointers or instructions gratefully received.
                          Thanks in advance

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                          Hi @MD_Clarke_Hicks this may be a little help
                          https://info.myrouteapp.com/blog-routes-loading-garmin-zumo-xt/

                          BlackView BV7100, Android 12, Offline mode with Offline Maps

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