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  • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

    @truckpilot

    In Google type Garmin Express Download.
    Start Garmin Express.
    Then Plug the XT/XT2 into your Laptop.
    It will take a few minutes for the XT/XT2 to Sync.

    You will hear a beep when the XT/XT2 is synced.

    XT2 Synced.png

    Go to the GPX Folder.

    Screenshot 2024-07-16 215313.png

    Paste your GPX Files into the GPX Folder.

    Screenshot 2024-07-16 215618.png

    Disconnect the XT/XT2 and power it up. It will ask you to select the files you wish to import.
    Job Done.

    If you are on a Mac I can't help with that.

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    @Lynchy67 strange because i do not need garmin express to connect my xt to windows pc. i only have to use it to update mijn garmin's.

    i just connect xt wired to pc and i can copy gpx.

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      @Bouke-Ent
      This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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      • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

        @Bouke-Ent
        This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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        #23

        @TomOnTour
        On windows pc normally no other program needed.
        When i connect my XT2,it shows up in the file manager/explorer ( verkenner in dutch).

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        • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

          @truckpilot

          In Google type Garmin Express Download.
          Start Garmin Express.
          Then Plug the XT/XT2 into your Laptop.
          It will take a few minutes for the XT/XT2 to Sync.

          You will hear a beep when the XT/XT2 is synced.

          XT2 Synced.png

          Go to the GPX Folder.

          Screenshot 2024-07-16 215313.png

          Paste your GPX Files into the GPX Folder.

          Screenshot 2024-07-16 215618.png

          Disconnect the XT/XT2 and power it up. It will ask you to select the files you wish to import.
          Job Done.

          If you are on a Mac I can't help with that.

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          truckpilot
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          @Lynchy67 like @Bouke-Ent mentioned, you don’t need garmin express to vieuw your XT2 in your Windows file manager/ explorer. Garmin express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

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          • truckpilotundefined truckpilot

            @Lynchy67 like @Bouke-Ent mentioned, you don’t need garmin express to vieuw your XT2 in your Windows file manager/ explorer. Garmin express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

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            Lynchy67
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            #25

            @truckpilot @Bouke-Ent
            I actually prefer to use Garmin Express for my XT2

            @truckpilot said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

            Garmin Express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

            That is simply not true!
            If you look at my screen shots you can see I have direct access to the GPX folder and I can upload multiple GPX Files.

            I'll stick with my method.

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

              @truckpilot @Bouke-Ent
              I actually prefer to use Garmin Express for my XT2

              @truckpilot said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

              Garmin Express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

              That is simply not true!
              If you look at my screen shots you can see I have direct access to the GPX folder and I can upload multiple GPX Files.

              I'll stick with my method.

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              #26

              @Lynchy67 you don’t have to open garmin express to see the XT2 in the file manager.
              It’s your windows system that normally ( depending settings) detect a ( new) device and opens it in your file manager/ Windows explorer. Try it once without opening garmin explorer.
              I’m been doing this also to import things directly in the gps(xt2) , internal memory and sd card.

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              • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                @Bouke-Ent
                This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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                Bouke Ent
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                @TomOnTour thanks for explaning. do you know if otg then still works. my xt i can connect with otg cable to my samsung active 2.

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                • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                  @TomOnTour thanks for explaning. do you know if otg then still works. my xt i can connect with otg cable to my samsung active 2.

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                  @Bouke-Ent
                  I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                  • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                    @Bouke-Ent
                    I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                    @TomOnTour you are not stupid... with otg cable you van connect a tablet or phone to a usb device like a usb stick or a navigation device. there are lightning and usb variants. with this you can connect your garmin to a phone or tablet without any pc. i use it when i do not have good internet (wifi or 4g) and i want to transfer a gpx file to my garmins or tomtom. only important thing is that your garmin is in USB storage mode. in the past i had to correct this on my 345. my xt was setup correctly.

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                    • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                      @Bouke-Ent
                      I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                      @TomOnTour, In essence, an OTG cable connects to your phone's charge port and enables regular USB devices to be connected to your phone.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                      • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                        @TomOnTour you are not stupid... with otg cable you van connect a tablet or phone to a usb device like a usb stick or a navigation device. there are lightning and usb variants. with this you can connect your garmin to a phone or tablet without any pc. i use it when i do not have good internet (wifi or 4g) and i want to transfer a gpx file to my garmins or tomtom. only important thing is that your garmin is in USB storage mode. in the past i had to correct this on my 345. my xt was setup correctly.

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                        #31

                        @Bouke-Ent Ok, got it. To be honest I never tried it, but it sounds similar to what I currently do, as I connect a MicroSD reader to my tablet and transfer the GPX-file onto a MicroSD and then I plug the MicroSD into my XT2. I should give it a try to connect my XT2 directly to my tablet.

                        Greetings
                        Thomas

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                        • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                          @Bouke-Ent Ok, got it. To be honest I never tried it, but it sounds similar to what I currently do, as I connect a MicroSD reader to my tablet and transfer the GPX-file onto a MicroSD and then I plug the MicroSD into my XT2. I should give it a try to connect my XT2 directly to my tablet.

                          Greetings
                          Thomas

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                          @TomOnTour sd option also works but with mij big fingers it is not always easy with small sd and flaps from zumo 😉 . with some android tablet you get a otg cable. this is what it looks like: https://www.allekabels.nl/usb-otg-kabel/6300/1258217/usb-otg-adapter.html?mc=nl-nl&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uK0BhC0ARIsANQtgGP7UeRNrnoDYvz4-kwIuNd2p3VziNcQLQsKVjrTxRQM_8j2NQyxAT8aAkE7EALw_wcB

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                          • austin 1undefined austin 1

                            I've recently added an XT2 to my stable and have run into an odd problem.

                            Garmin documentation indicates the XT2 is no longer compatible with Garmin Basecamp. That in itself is not a surprise. What is a surprise is Garmin insists only output from the Garmin Tread application is compatible with the XT2.

                            I've tried importing MRA gpx files in v1.1 and v1.2 format and neither work

                            The only reliable workaround I've discovered is to delete any route files from MRA and convert the track files that are also sent along into routes. Somewhat cumbersome.

                            Does anyone know if Garmin has adopted a more recent .gpx file format version or have they moved the route file format version into the 'private and not published' status?

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                            @austin-1 I TOO HAVE THE ZUMO XT2, I WORK FROM A MAC PRO DESK TOP.
                            I HAVE HAD SUCCESS ONCE I DISCOVERED THE ' ANDROID FILE TRANSFER APP'

                            I CONNECT MY ZUMO XT2 DIRECT WITH A USB-C CABLE TO MY LAP TOP, THEN GIVE ' ANDROID FILE TRANSFER ' APP UP TO ONE OR TWO MINUTES TO RECOGNIZE THE ZUMO.

                            A SEPARATE WINDOW WILL OPEN SHOWING THE FILES ON THE ZUMO.

                            DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ' SAVE ' YOUR FILES FROM MRA YOU WILL NEED TO OPEN A SEPARATE WINDOW AND THEN DRAG THE NEW FILE INTO THE GPX FOLDER .. IT WILL LOAD IMMEDIATELY.

                            NEXT DISCONNECT AND RE-START YOUR ZUMO, THE ZUMO WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE ' NEW ' FILES TO DOWNLOAD.

                            THIS NEXT PART IS SOMETHING MAYBE ONLY I AM STRUGGLING WITH AS A PAST ' BASECAMP ' UDER.

                            I AM CURRENTLY STARTING THE ROUTES I TRANSFER WITH ' ALL ' VIA POINTS ... NO ' SHAPING POINTS '.

                            THEN ON THE ZUMO I CHANGE THE POINTS TO ' SHAPING AS NEEDED. THIS IS BECAUSE THE SHAPING POINTS SEEM TO NOT CLEAR AUTOMATICALLY IF A VARY OFF ROUTE AND ALSO I BELIEVE I MUST NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT ' IGNORING ' THEM.

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                              Dirk Kevin K.
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                              #34

                              Good morning,

                              why don't you use the "Drive" app to transfer directly to the XT(2) without a cable via Bluetooth or use "Garmin Explore" and save Tracks and Routes and Favorits in the "Garmin Cloud".

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                              • Dirk Kevin K.undefined Dirk Kevin K.

                                Good morning,

                                why don't you use the "Drive" app to transfer directly to the XT(2) without a cable via Bluetooth or use "Garmin Explore" and save Tracks and Routes and Favorits in the "Garmin Cloud".

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                                @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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                                • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                                  @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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                                  @TomOnTour
                                  and why not Transfer the GPX via "Drive" App to the XT2?

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                                  • Dirk Kevin K.undefined Dirk Kevin K.

                                    @TomOnTour
                                    and why not Transfer the GPX via "Drive" App to the XT2?

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                                    #37

                                    @Dirk-Kevin-K As far as I know the XT2 does not support the Drive APP. The Drive APP is only for the XT.

                                    Greetings
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                                    • austin 1undefined austin 1

                                      I've recently added an XT2 to my stable and have run into an odd problem.

                                      Garmin documentation indicates the XT2 is no longer compatible with Garmin Basecamp. That in itself is not a surprise. What is a surprise is Garmin insists only output from the Garmin Tread application is compatible with the XT2.

                                      I've tried importing MRA gpx files in v1.1 and v1.2 format and neither work

                                      The only reliable workaround I've discovered is to delete any route files from MRA and convert the track files that are also sent along into routes. Somewhat cumbersome.

                                      Does anyone know if Garmin has adopted a more recent .gpx file format version or have they moved the route file format version into the 'private and not published' status?

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                                      @austin-1 Is is possible to see the XT2 as a storage location when you connect it to the Mac. If so, just export the GPX1.2 to a location and copy that file to the GPX dir in the XT2. If you disconnect the GPS (which shuts the GPS down). Start it again and it will ask to import the new route (from track to tour).

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                                      • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                                        @Dirk-Kevin-K As far as I know the XT2 does not support the Drive APP. The Drive APP is only for the XT.

                                        Greetings
                                        Thomas

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                                        @TomOnTour
                                        Last experiment

                                        This does not seem to be an MRA problem, perhaps you can get help here Naviboard / XT2

                                        Furthermore, I know that there is a "Secret / Hidden Menu" where you can activate the MTP protocol, but be careful ⚠️ I do not give any guarantee ‼️
                                        https://www.gps-forums.com/threads/garmin-secret-menus.46595/

                                        And then there is the "Android File Transfer" programme for the Mac.
                                        https://www.androidcentral.com/how-transfer-files-your-android-phone-mac

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                                        • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                                          @truckpilot
                                          No, I really do mean Garmin Express.
                                          It allows you to easily upload your gpx files diretly into the GPX Folder on the XT2

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