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Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app

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  • Carl Leeundefined Offline
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    Carl Lee
    wrote on last edited by Carl Lee
    #17

    Been playing a little more with this thing. I'm now happy that my system works fine to wirelessly import MRA routes and tracks in GPX 1.1 (auto recalculate in auto). Important for when on bike tours away from a computer.

    Using the MRA wired connector also means you can import GPX 1.2 files in the normal way which is great as these follow your track exactly (auto recalculate off).

    I've also found how to make a track visible under the route. On the main map, click on Layers - Collections - Unorganised. Make sure first to make the intended track your colour of choice (black seems to work best), make it widest and 'show on top'. Your other tracks may be there but they will probably be yellow. Obviously, reorganise or delete after use to avoid confusion.

    I hope I'm not teaching anyone to suck eggs and this is useful. At least it's a starting point to develop further discussion.

    Maybe a new GPX will get created to work with Garmin Explore.

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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

      @truckpilot

      With a windows PC you can use the connector
      With a Mac, save the route as (gpx 1.1 or gpx 1.2) and with Android File Transfer, transfer the route tot youte XT2 to the gpx folder.
      When using the MRA App and the Tread App use the gpx 1.1 file, because Garmin Explore makes a mess of the gpx 1.2 file.

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      Carl Lee
      wrote on last edited by
      #18

      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA thanks, good info and I'm getting to grips with it now.

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      • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

        @truckpilot
        No, I really do mean Garmin Express.
        It allows you to easily upload your gpx files diretly into the GPX Folder on the XT2

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        truckpilot
        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        @Lynchy67
        Ok. Can you explain please how to do this?
        At this moment i can’t find any button or something else to import .gpx file to the unit.

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        • truckpilotundefined truckpilot

          @Lynchy67
          Ok. Can you explain please how to do this?
          At this moment i can’t find any button or something else to import .gpx file to the unit.

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          Lynchy67
          wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
          #20

          @truckpilot

          In Google type Garmin Express Download.
          Start Garmin Express.
          Then Plug the XT/XT2 into your Laptop.
          It will take a few minutes for the XT/XT2 to Sync.

          You will hear a beep when the XT/XT2 is synced.

          XT2 Synced.png

          Go to the GPX Folder.

          Screenshot 2024-07-16 215313.png

          Paste your GPX Files into the GPX Folder.

          Screenshot 2024-07-16 215618.png

          Disconnect the XT/XT2 and power it up. It will ask you to select the files you wish to import.
          Job Done.

          If you are on a Mac I can't help with that.

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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          • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

            @truckpilot

            In Google type Garmin Express Download.
            Start Garmin Express.
            Then Plug the XT/XT2 into your Laptop.
            It will take a few minutes for the XT/XT2 to Sync.

            You will hear a beep when the XT/XT2 is synced.

            XT2 Synced.png

            Go to the GPX Folder.

            Screenshot 2024-07-16 215313.png

            Paste your GPX Files into the GPX Folder.

            Screenshot 2024-07-16 215618.png

            Disconnect the XT/XT2 and power it up. It will ask you to select the files you wish to import.
            Job Done.

            If you are on a Mac I can't help with that.

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            Bouke Ent
            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @Lynchy67 strange because i do not need garmin express to connect my xt to windows pc. i only have to use it to update mijn garmin's.

            i just connect xt wired to pc and i can copy gpx.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #22

              @Bouke-Ent
              This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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              • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                @Bouke-Ent
                This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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                truckpilot
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                @TomOnTour
                On windows pc normally no other program needed.
                When i connect my XT2,it shows up in the file manager/explorer ( verkenner in dutch).

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                • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                  @truckpilot

                  In Google type Garmin Express Download.
                  Start Garmin Express.
                  Then Plug the XT/XT2 into your Laptop.
                  It will take a few minutes for the XT/XT2 to Sync.

                  You will hear a beep when the XT/XT2 is synced.

                  XT2 Synced.png

                  Go to the GPX Folder.

                  Screenshot 2024-07-16 215313.png

                  Paste your GPX Files into the GPX Folder.

                  Screenshot 2024-07-16 215618.png

                  Disconnect the XT/XT2 and power it up. It will ask you to select the files you wish to import.
                  Job Done.

                  If you are on a Mac I can't help with that.

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                  truckpilot
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @Lynchy67 like @Bouke-Ent mentioned, you don’t need garmin express to vieuw your XT2 in your Windows file manager/ explorer. Garmin express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

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                  • truckpilotundefined truckpilot

                    @Lynchy67 like @Bouke-Ent mentioned, you don’t need garmin express to vieuw your XT2 in your Windows file manager/ explorer. Garmin express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

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                    Lynchy67
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    @truckpilot @Bouke-Ent
                    I actually prefer to use Garmin Express for my XT2

                    @truckpilot said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

                    Garmin Express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

                    That is simply not true!
                    If you look at my screen shots you can see I have direct access to the GPX folder and I can upload multiple GPX Files.

                    I'll stick with my method.

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                      @truckpilot @Bouke-Ent
                      I actually prefer to use Garmin Express for my XT2

                      @truckpilot said in Zumo XT2 and Garmin Tread app:

                      Garmin Express only for updating device's firmware,maps etc via usb connection.

                      That is simply not true!
                      If you look at my screen shots you can see I have direct access to the GPX folder and I can upload multiple GPX Files.

                      I'll stick with my method.

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                      truckpilot
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      @Lynchy67 you don’t have to open garmin express to see the XT2 in the file manager.
                      It’s your windows system that normally ( depending settings) detect a ( new) device and opens it in your file manager/ Windows explorer. Try it once without opening garmin explorer.
                      I’m been doing this also to import things directly in the gps(xt2) , internal memory and sd card.

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                      • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                        @Bouke-Ent
                        This is different for the XT2, as they changed the file system format or the communication protocols. I am nit sure which is the one that have changed (at least for the Mac) users. I could connect my XT to my Mac and go to the GPX folder, but with the XT2 you need a special peace of software (Android file transfer) to get it "connected" with the Macs. Not sure if there is something similar in the windows world.

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                        Bouke Ent
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        @TomOnTour thanks for explaning. do you know if otg then still works. my xt i can connect with otg cable to my samsung active 2.

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                        • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                          @TomOnTour thanks for explaning. do you know if otg then still works. my xt i can connect with otg cable to my samsung active 2.

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                          TomOnTour
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #28

                          @Bouke-Ent
                          I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                          • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                            @Bouke-Ent
                            I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                            #29

                            @TomOnTour you are not stupid... with otg cable you van connect a tablet or phone to a usb device like a usb stick or a navigation device. there are lightning and usb variants. with this you can connect your garmin to a phone or tablet without any pc. i use it when i do not have good internet (wifi or 4g) and i want to transfer a gpx file to my garmins or tomtom. only important thing is that your garmin is in USB storage mode. in the past i had to correct this on my 345. my xt was setup correctly.

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                            • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                              @Bouke-Ent
                              I might be stupid, but I don't know what "OTG" means. Sorry, for asking 🙂

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                              #30

                              @TomOnTour, In essence, an OTG cable connects to your phone's charge port and enables regular USB devices to be connected to your phone.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                              • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                                @TomOnTour you are not stupid... with otg cable you van connect a tablet or phone to a usb device like a usb stick or a navigation device. there are lightning and usb variants. with this you can connect your garmin to a phone or tablet without any pc. i use it when i do not have good internet (wifi or 4g) and i want to transfer a gpx file to my garmins or tomtom. only important thing is that your garmin is in USB storage mode. in the past i had to correct this on my 345. my xt was setup correctly.

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                                TomOnTour
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                                #31

                                @Bouke-Ent Ok, got it. To be honest I never tried it, but it sounds similar to what I currently do, as I connect a MicroSD reader to my tablet and transfer the GPX-file onto a MicroSD and then I plug the MicroSD into my XT2. I should give it a try to connect my XT2 directly to my tablet.

                                Greetings
                                Thomas

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                                • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                                  @Bouke-Ent Ok, got it. To be honest I never tried it, but it sounds similar to what I currently do, as I connect a MicroSD reader to my tablet and transfer the GPX-file onto a MicroSD and then I plug the MicroSD into my XT2. I should give it a try to connect my XT2 directly to my tablet.

                                  Greetings
                                  Thomas

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                                  #32

                                  @TomOnTour sd option also works but with mij big fingers it is not always easy with small sd and flaps from zumo 😉 . with some android tablet you get a otg cable. this is what it looks like: https://www.allekabels.nl/usb-otg-kabel/6300/1258217/usb-otg-adapter.html?mc=nl-nl&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-uK0BhC0ARIsANQtgGP7UeRNrnoDYvz4-kwIuNd2p3VziNcQLQsKVjrTxRQM_8j2NQyxAT8aAkE7EALw_wcB

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                                  • austin 1undefined austin 1

                                    I've recently added an XT2 to my stable and have run into an odd problem.

                                    Garmin documentation indicates the XT2 is no longer compatible with Garmin Basecamp. That in itself is not a surprise. What is a surprise is Garmin insists only output from the Garmin Tread application is compatible with the XT2.

                                    I've tried importing MRA gpx files in v1.1 and v1.2 format and neither work

                                    The only reliable workaround I've discovered is to delete any route files from MRA and convert the track files that are also sent along into routes. Somewhat cumbersome.

                                    Does anyone know if Garmin has adopted a more recent .gpx file format version or have they moved the route file format version into the 'private and not published' status?

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                                    Bill Funk
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                                    #33

                                    @austin-1 I TOO HAVE THE ZUMO XT2, I WORK FROM A MAC PRO DESK TOP.
                                    I HAVE HAD SUCCESS ONCE I DISCOVERED THE ' ANDROID FILE TRANSFER APP'

                                    I CONNECT MY ZUMO XT2 DIRECT WITH A USB-C CABLE TO MY LAP TOP, THEN GIVE ' ANDROID FILE TRANSFER ' APP UP TO ONE OR TWO MINUTES TO RECOGNIZE THE ZUMO.

                                    A SEPARATE WINDOW WILL OPEN SHOWING THE FILES ON THE ZUMO.

                                    DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ' SAVE ' YOUR FILES FROM MRA YOU WILL NEED TO OPEN A SEPARATE WINDOW AND THEN DRAG THE NEW FILE INTO THE GPX FOLDER .. IT WILL LOAD IMMEDIATELY.

                                    NEXT DISCONNECT AND RE-START YOUR ZUMO, THE ZUMO WILL TELL YOU THERE ARE ' NEW ' FILES TO DOWNLOAD.

                                    THIS NEXT PART IS SOMETHING MAYBE ONLY I AM STRUGGLING WITH AS A PAST ' BASECAMP ' UDER.

                                    I AM CURRENTLY STARTING THE ROUTES I TRANSFER WITH ' ALL ' VIA POINTS ... NO ' SHAPING POINTS '.

                                    THEN ON THE ZUMO I CHANGE THE POINTS TO ' SHAPING AS NEEDED. THIS IS BECAUSE THE SHAPING POINTS SEEM TO NOT CLEAR AUTOMATICALLY IF A VARY OFF ROUTE AND ALSO I BELIEVE I MUST NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT ' IGNORING ' THEM.

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                                      #34

                                      Good morning,

                                      why don't you use the "Drive" app to transfer directly to the XT(2) without a cable via Bluetooth or use "Garmin Explore" and save Tracks and Routes and Favorits in the "Garmin Cloud".

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                                      • Dirk Kevin K.undefined Dirk Kevin K.

                                        Good morning,

                                        why don't you use the "Drive" app to transfer directly to the XT(2) without a cable via Bluetooth or use "Garmin Explore" and save Tracks and Routes and Favorits in the "Garmin Cloud".

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                                        @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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                                        • TomOnTourundefined TomOnTour

                                          @Dirk-Kevin-K Because that is - at least for me - not working. Tread APP and the Explore-Cloud „destroy“ the original route. Tracks works fine, but routes are impossible to use.

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                                          @TomOnTour
                                          and why not Transfer the GPX via "Drive" App to the XT2?

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