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  • richtea999undefined Offline
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    richtea999
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    Being forced to publish a route means learning the system, and a real user's first post might be 'How do I ...', i.e. it's quite possible they're not up to speed on how to create a route.

    I think the recent posts were immediately after getting an account confirmed, so a simple 24 hour delay on posting might stop the obvious ones.

    Most forums will have spam detection using name, email, IP location, and flag up the dodgy-looking ones for manual acceptance, so maybe MRA were a bit unlucky this time around. Although a username with 'fnaf security breach' would ring bells for me!

    A secondary check is to have some simple 'challenge' questions/checks: "What does MRA stand for?'. 'Orange is the national colour of which country?', 'Type the satnav company with a repeating name'. The trouble there is that bots can answer those questions, but if you do keep modifying them slightly, you can keep ahead of the spammers.

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    • richtea999undefined richtea999

      Being forced to publish a route means learning the system, and a real user's first post might be 'How do I ...', i.e. it's quite possible they're not up to speed on how to create a route.

      I think the recent posts were immediately after getting an account confirmed, so a simple 24 hour delay on posting might stop the obvious ones.

      Most forums will have spam detection using name, email, IP location, and flag up the dodgy-looking ones for manual acceptance, so maybe MRA were a bit unlucky this time around. Although a username with 'fnaf security breach' would ring bells for me!

      A secondary check is to have some simple 'challenge' questions/checks: "What does MRA stand for?'. 'Orange is the national colour of which country?', 'Type the satnav company with a repeating name'. The trouble there is that bots can answer those questions, but if you do keep modifying them slightly, you can keep ahead of the spammers.

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      @richtea999, I understand your reasoning. However I think a 24 hour delay poses a bigger obstacle for newcomers then the suggested obligated presence of a route (a rout is present from the moment you have clicked on "create new route", even if there are no waypoints in it. On the other side, the forum software will likely have no option for checking the presence of a route, so that will most have to be custom built. Checking countries and IP numbers is undoable for a forum with members all over the planet. I think a challenge will likely be easiest, but I like @Jack-van-Tilburg his suggestion. After all there are great devs behind the forum 😉 And a pinned topic could explain how to get write access to the forum.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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      • Jörgenundefined Offline
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        Or allow access only after an admin check.

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          We have a new one by the name of HANNA BAKER

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            We have a new one by the name of HANNA BAKER

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            Nick Carthew
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            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @Con-Hennekens Gone now 💪

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            • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

              Or allow access only after an admin check.

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              #8

              @Jörgen said in Spammers:

              Or allow access only after an admin check.

              My proposal regarding the presence of routes, whether public or not, is technically/digital implementable.
              An admin check takes up (valuable) time of an MRA employee. It wouldn't be my preference.

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              • Nick Carthewundefined Online
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                Nick Carthew
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                #9

                Let’s put things into perspective.
                We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
                I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
                We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

                Always willing to help if I can.
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                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
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                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                  Let’s put things into perspective.
                  We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
                  I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
                  We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

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                  #10

                  @Nick-Carthew
                  I am fine with it.
                  But this is also about user protection.
                  I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

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                  • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                    @Nick-Carthew
                    I am fine with it.
                    But this is also about user protection.
                    I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

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                    Nick Carthew
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    I understand what you are saying @Jack-van-Tilburg and I appreciate your concern for the forum users, so thank you. 👍

                    Always willing to help if I can.
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                    • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                      @Nick-Carthew
                      I am fine with it.
                      But this is also about user protection.
                      I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

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                      wrote on last edited by Drabslab
                      #12

                      @Jack-van-Tilburg i copy that. We should think of something really simple to stop those @#£%%^&*

                      Littele protection is only vood until one of those uses the forum for a pfishing attack

                      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                        Let’s put things into perspective.
                        We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
                        I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
                        We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

                        Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                        Con Hennekens
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @Nick-Carthew, I'll keep flaging as much as I can 😉

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg We will discuss this 🙂

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                          #14

                          @Corjan-Meijerink maybe introducing 2FA for the Forum would be a solution

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                          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Offline
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                            #15

                            And the spammers are becoming more and more sophisticated 😞
                            It is the second time that I have seen spam in a message within an existing topic with text that could well fit within the topic. This time the link is very trickyly hidden.

                            spam.png

                            user.png

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                            Adequate reaction, the message is removed 👍

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                            • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                              And the spammers are becoming more and more sophisticated 😞
                              It is the second time that I have seen spam in a message within an existing topic with text that could well fit within the topic. This time the link is very trickyly hidden.

                              spam.png

                              user.png

                              Drift Hunters is a browser-based drifting game

                              Adequate reaction, the message is removed 👍

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                              Nick Carthew
                              RouteXpert
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #16

                              @Jack-van-Tilburg Thanks for reporting this 👍

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