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  • richtea999 richtea999

    Being forced to publish a route means learning the system, and a real user's first post might be 'How do I ...', i.e. it's quite possible they're not up to speed on how to create a route.

    I think the recent posts were immediately after getting an account confirmed, so a simple 24 hour delay on posting might stop the obvious ones.

    Most forums will have spam detection using name, email, IP location, and flag up the dodgy-looking ones for manual acceptance, so maybe MRA were a bit unlucky this time around. Although a username with 'fnaf security breach' would ring bells for me!

    A secondary check is to have some simple 'challenge' questions/checks: "What does MRA stand for?'. 'Orange is the national colour of which country?', 'Type the satnav company with a repeating name'. The trouble there is that bots can answer those questions, but if you do keep modifying them slightly, you can keep ahead of the spammers.

    MotoCon
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    @richtea999, I understand your reasoning. However I think a 24 hour delay poses a bigger obstacle for newcomers then the suggested obligated presence of a route (a rout is present from the moment you have clicked on "create new route", even if there are no waypoints in it. On the other side, the forum software will likely have no option for checking the presence of a route, so that will most have to be custom built. Checking countries and IP numbers is undoable for a forum with members all over the planet. I think a challenge will likely be easiest, but I like @Jack-van-Tilburg his suggestion. After all there are great devs behind the forum 😉 And a pinned topic could explain how to get write access to the forum.

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    • Jörgen
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      #5

      Or allow access only after an admin check.

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      • MotoCon
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        #6

        We have a new one by the name of HANNA BAKER

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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        • MotoCon MotoCon

          We have a new one by the name of HANNA BAKER

          Nick Carthew
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          RouteXpert
          wrote on last edited by
          #7

          @Con-Hennekens Gone now 💪

          Always willing to help if I can.
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          • Jörgen Jörgen

            Or allow access only after an admin check.

            TorqueRider
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            wrote on last edited by
            #8

            @Jörgen said in Spammers:

            Or allow access only after an admin check.

            My proposal regarding the presence of routes, whether public or not, is technically/digital implementable.
            An admin check takes up (valuable) time of an MRA employee. It wouldn't be my preference.

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            • Nick Carthew
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              wrote on last edited by
              #9

              Let’s put things into perspective.
              We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
              I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
              We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

              Always willing to help if I can.
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              • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                Let’s put things into perspective.
                We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
                I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
                We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

                TorqueRider
                TorqueRider
                TorqueRider
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                #10

                @Nick-Carthew
                I am fine with it.
                But this is also about user protection.
                I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

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                • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                  @Nick-Carthew
                  I am fine with it.
                  But this is also about user protection.
                  I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

                  Nick Carthew
                  Nick Carthew
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #11

                  I understand what you are saying @Jack-van-Tilburg and I appreciate your concern for the forum users, so thank you. 👍

                  Always willing to help if I can.
                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                  • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                    @Nick-Carthew
                    I am fine with it.
                    But this is also about user protection.
                    I have been an IT professional for too long. And know that people simply click on links. And that can have very harmful consequences.

                    Drabslab
                    Drabslab
                    Drabslab
                    wrote on last edited by Drabslab
                    #12

                    @Jack-van-Tilburg i copy that. We should think of something really simple to stop those @#£%%^&*

                    Littele protection is only vood until one of those uses the forum for a pfishing attack

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                      Let’s put things into perspective.
                      We have about 150,000 users of this forum and occasionally we have a spam post that is normally dealt with very quickly by me or one of the other admins.
                      I would rather @Corjan-Meijerink spent his precious time dedicated to developing the app rather than trying to create security barriers for this forum.
                      We are very grateful to you all for flagging suspicious posts and to be honest I think that this is the way that we should continue.

                      MotoCon
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                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #13

                      @Nick-Carthew, I'll keep flaging as much as I can 😉

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                        @Jack-van-Tilburg We will discuss this 🙂

                        Marinus van Deudekom
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #14

                        @Corjan-Meijerink maybe introducing 2FA for the Forum would be a solution

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                        • TorqueRider
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                          wrote on last edited by TorqueRider
                          #15

                          And the spammers are becoming more and more sophisticated 😞
                          It is the second time that I have seen spam in a message within an existing topic with text that could well fit within the topic. This time the link is very trickyly hidden.

                          spam.png

                          user.png

                          Drift Hunters is a browser-based drifting game

                          Adequate reaction, the message is removed 👍

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                          • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                            And the spammers are becoming more and more sophisticated 😞
                            It is the second time that I have seen spam in a message within an existing topic with text that could well fit within the topic. This time the link is very trickyly hidden.

                            spam.png

                            user.png

                            Drift Hunters is a browser-based drifting game

                            Adequate reaction, the message is removed 👍

                            Nick Carthew
                            Nick Carthew
                            Nick Carthew
                            RouteXpert
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #16

                            @Jack-van-Tilburg Thanks for reporting this 👍

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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