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    • Don Stauffer
      Don Stauffer last edited by

      I've been enjoying the features in MRA for a couple of years now, and it's made planning much easier.

      In the early stages of route planning, I start collecting information about potential stops. These are usually towns or attractions in the area. We're looking for lunch mid-day, and food and lodging at night. Hopefully with a nice pub within walking distance of our hotel. This information is collected before choosing a particular road and setting a route. It really is about identifying some options for the day's route.

      I'm using a separate application (trello) to keep information about these potential stops. Here is a typical entry from an upcoming trip:

      "Lenox MA 4 hrs 30m - small road detours possible. !!LOOK FOR SUNDAY RESTAURANT HOURS!!
      Garden Gables Inn (B&B, full breakfast) - looks very nice. $200 - $300!!
      Whistler’s Inn
      Firefly Gastropub (Closed Sunday)
      Gateway Inn and Restaurant - Wed through Sunday 5:00 pm
      Olde Heritage Tavern Sunday 11:30 - 9:00 Closed Monday"

      If I could save notes like this, and even hyperlinks, I could do more within the MRA app. I have used notes in waypoints, but these possible stops will not all need to be routed. Plus, the notes area in waypoints is quite small.

      Implementation in POI would also be possible, I know there are improvements in that area already on the MRA Roadmap. The issue that I have now is that the POI icons obscure the routes, and it takes a few clicks to turn them off and on.

      Thanks for the consideration, and thanks for a great product.

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      • Hans van de Ven MRA-Master
        Hans van de Ven MRA-Master Instructor RouteXperts @Don Stauffer last edited by

        @Don-Stauffer
        In the formation/via points this is indeed the only option to save this. You can put 512 characters in the note. We are currently working on a TextToSpeech option to speak it out.

        Of course you can do the planning as you write it in the planner, and make it visible with POIs and then indicate in the training / via points what you want to achieve.

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        Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is. / A route is only as good as it has been plotted.

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        • Con Hennekens
          Con Hennekens @Don Stauffer last edited by

          @Don-Stauffer, I think this is a great idea. I imagine being able to place a memo on a map location. These memos are visible during navigating and independent of the route. Another route that drives through that area would show the same memo. This way you can easily define a list of personally prefered hotels,, restaurants, nice things to see or whatever. Like user defined POI. I am all for!

          I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
          I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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          • Dave J 0
            Dave J 0 @Con Hennekens last edited by Dave J 0

            @Con-Hennekens and @Don-Stauffer really like the sound of this. I currently use Apple Notes to do the ground work but the thought of having a 'note' that would allow text, links and pictures on the map screen for planning would be awesome. I could then copy salient info into waypoints. Huge πŸ‘ from me.

            Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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            • Jack van Tilburg
              Jack van Tilburg @Con Hennekens last edited by

              @Con-Hennekens said in Saving information for route planning:

              These memos are visible during navigating

              "during navigation"?????????????? ☠
              Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

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              • Nick Carthew
                Nick Carthew RouteXperts @Con Hennekens last edited by

                @Con-Hennekens Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app. 😁

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                • Rob Verhoeff
                  Rob Verhoeff @Nick Carthew last edited by

                  @Nick-Carthew That's an interesting route you're driving... πŸ˜‚

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                  • Dave J 0
                    Dave J 0 @Jack van Tilburg last edited by

                    @Jack-van-Tilburg totally agree. Just in planning NOT navigation.

                    Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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                    • Bart DM
                      Bart DM @Rob Verhoeff last edited by

                      @Rob-Verhoeff it was also the first thing I saw.... very special shape that route 😁 😁

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                      • Rob Verhoeff
                        Rob Verhoeff @Bart DM last edited by

                        @Bart-DM A dirty mind is a joy forever...

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                        • Con Hennekens
                          Con Hennekens @Jack van Tilburg last edited by Con Hennekens

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Saving information for route planning:

                          Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

                          @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                          Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app.

                          @Dave-J-0 said in Saving information for route planning:

                          totally agree. Just in planning NOT navigation.

                          That's the first time I hear a bunch of die-hard navigation fans being afraid of POI's...
                          Your opinions are clear, I wonder about the reasoning (if any πŸ˜‰ ).

                          I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                          I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                          • Corjan Meijerink
                            Corjan Meijerink administrator @Rob Verhoeff last edited by

                            @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew 😏

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                            • Rob Verhoeff
                              Rob Verhoeff @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                              @Corjan-Meijerink Wow πŸ˜‚

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                              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                              Apple CarPlay in VW Golf 7 Variant (wired)
                              Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                              • Nick Carthew
                                Nick Carthew RouteXperts @Con Hennekens last edited by

                                @Con-Hennekens I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                                I don’t think the original post was concerning POIs.
                                I have no problems with seeing POIs and maybe we could write similar notes in those too. It has already be mentioned that any added URLs or phone numbers to notes could connect directly with a press.

                                Always willing to help if I can.
                                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                MRA Navigation and SilverFox bar buttons.
                                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                • Nick Carthew
                                  Nick Carthew RouteXperts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink πŸ˜€

                                  Always willing to help if I can.
                                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                  MRA Navigation and SilverFox bar buttons.
                                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                  • Bart DM
                                    Bart DM @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink OMG 😱

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                                    Wired CarPlay in my car (Skoda SUPERB - 2021).
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                                    • Con Hennekens
                                      Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink, Well, it's... big... but I doubt navigational instructions are needed... 🀣

                                      @Rob-Verhoeff and @Bart-DM, I suppose you had to google that as well? πŸ˜‰

                                      I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                                      I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                      • Con Hennekens
                                        Con Hennekens @Nick Carthew last edited by

                                        @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                        I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                                        I know and that's awesome. But if I understand it correctly TS wants exactly that, but not with waypoints. Like a free standing point on the map that is unattached to the route itself. Which sounds like POI to me.

                                        @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                        I don’t think the original post was concerning POIs.

                                        Well,

                                        @Don-Stauffer said in Saving information for route planning:

                                        I start collecting information about potential stops. These are usually towns or attractions in the area. We're looking for lunch mid-day, and food and lodging at night. Hopefully with a nice pub within walking distance of our hotel. This information is collected before choosing a particular road and setting a route.

                                        Also this sounds like POI to me.
                                        Or am I completely misinterpreting that post?

                                        I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                                        I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                        • Dave J 0
                                          Dave J 0 @Con Hennekens last edited by

                                          @Con-Hennekens To me, the notes would not be about a single point of interest but aspects to consider or be aware of at a location for planning. This may then yield several POIs from the notes and planning for navigation. As @Nick-Carthew said, some of the notes may then find there way into waypoint info notes. I want some information in waypoint notes but not the level that the original suggestion was making as this would be in a separate planning note on the map. That is how I understood it but happy to be corrected.

                                          Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                                          Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                                          iPhone 12 Pro
                                          Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                                          Ex Garmin XT and TomTom Rider User

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                                          • Don Stauffer
                                            Don Stauffer @Dave J 0 last edited by Don Stauffer

                                            @Dave-J-0 Thanks for the comments. I think most understand the intent of making notes early in the planning process. These notes are mostly potential spots for lunch, fuel and nightly lodging. The best roads are not much fun if you are running out of daylight in the mountains looking for a place to spend the night.

                                            Even if not initially routed, these locations (call them POI's) can come in very useful if there is a change in plans due to weather or mechanical issues. It also gives a database for future trips in the area. We always try to capture our thought about especially good or bad experiences.

                                            I'm very curious to know how others build their routes. I rely a lot on paper maps, many indicate 'scenic' routes. We always look for the twisty lines. I also search for rider notes from various forums, including BMW and ADV sites. We use a Garmin Zumo and helmet coms, which gives me some help navigating while I focus on the road and traffic.

                                            I am in a good position, my wife and I are both retired, and enjoy traveling the open road. We started an anniversary tradition a few years back of spending 1-2 weeks on a long-distance getaway. Facing a 10 day trip makes planning much more important than it was when I was single, when I would just grab a map and lash a tent and sleeping bag to the bike.

                                            Thanks to all!

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