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  • Don Stauffer Don Stauffer

    I've been enjoying the features in MRA for a couple of years now, and it's made planning much easier.

    In the early stages of route planning, I start collecting information about potential stops. These are usually towns or attractions in the area. We're looking for lunch mid-day, and food and lodging at night. Hopefully with a nice pub within walking distance of our hotel. This information is collected before choosing a particular road and setting a route. It really is about identifying some options for the day's route.

    I'm using a separate application (trello) to keep information about these potential stops. Here is a typical entry from an upcoming trip:

    "Lenox MA 4 hrs 30m - small road detours possible. !!LOOK FOR SUNDAY RESTAURANT HOURS!!
    Garden Gables Inn (B&B, full breakfast) - looks very nice. $200 - $300!!
    Whistlerโ€™s Inn
    Firefly Gastropub (Closed Sunday)
    Gateway Inn and Restaurant - Wed through Sunday 5:00 pm
    Olde Heritage Tavern Sunday 11:30 - 9:00 Closed Monday"

    If I could save notes like this, and even hyperlinks, I could do more within the MRA app. I have used notes in waypoints, but these possible stops will not all need to be routed. Plus, the notes area in waypoints is quite small.

    Implementation in POI would also be possible, I know there are improvements in that area already on the MRA Roadmap. The issue that I have now is that the POI icons obscure the routes, and it takes a few clicks to turn them off and on.

    Thanks for the consideration, and thanks for a great product.

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    @Don-Stauffer, I think this is a great idea. I imagine being able to place a memo on a map location. These memos are visible during navigating and independent of the route. Another route that drives through that area would show the same memo. This way you can easily define a list of personally prefered hotels,, restaurants, nice things to see or whatever. Like user defined POI. I am all for!

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

      @Don-Stauffer, I think this is a great idea. I imagine being able to place a memo on a map location. These memos are visible during navigating and independent of the route. Another route that drives through that area would show the same memo. This way you can easily define a list of personally prefered hotels,, restaurants, nice things to see or whatever. Like user defined POI. I am all for!

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      @Con-Hennekens and @Don-Stauffer really like the sound of this. I currently use Apple Notes to do the ground work but the thought of having a 'note' that would allow text, links and pictures on the map screen for planning would be awesome. I could then copy salient info into waypoints. Huge ๐Ÿ‘ from me.

      Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

        @Don-Stauffer, I think this is a great idea. I imagine being able to place a memo on a map location. These memos are visible during navigating and independent of the route. Another route that drives through that area would show the same memo. This way you can easily define a list of personally prefered hotels,, restaurants, nice things to see or whatever. Like user defined POI. I am all for!

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        @Con-Hennekens said in Saving information for route planning:

        These memos are visible during navigating

        "during navigation"?????????????? โ˜ 
        Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

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        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

          @Don-Stauffer, I think this is a great idea. I imagine being able to place a memo on a map location. These memos are visible during navigating and independent of the route. Another route that drives through that area would show the same memo. This way you can easily define a list of personally prefered hotels,, restaurants, nice things to see or whatever. Like user defined POI. I am all for!

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          @Con-Hennekens Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app. ๐Ÿ˜

          IMG_2510.jpeg

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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          • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

            @Con-Hennekens Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app. ๐Ÿ˜

            IMG_2510.jpeg

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            @Nick-Carthew That's an interesting route you're driving... ๐Ÿ˜‚

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            • Jack van Tilburg Jack van Tilburg

              @Con-Hennekens said in Saving information for route planning:

              These memos are visible during navigating

              "during navigation"?????????????? โ˜ 
              Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

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              @Jack-van-Tilburg totally agree. Just in planning NOT navigation.

              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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              • Rob Verhoeff Rob Verhoeff

                @Nick-Carthew That's an interesting route you're driving... ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                @Rob-Verhoeff it was also the first thing I saw.... very special shape that route ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜

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                • Bart De Medts Bart De Medts

                  @Rob-Verhoeff it was also the first thing I saw.... very special shape that route ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜

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                  @Bart-DM A dirty mind is a joy forever...

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                  • Jack van Tilburg Jack van Tilburg

                    @Con-Hennekens said in Saving information for route planning:

                    These memos are visible during navigating

                    "during navigation"?????????????? โ˜ 
                    Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

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                    @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Saving information for route planning:

                    Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

                    @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                    Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app.

                    @Dave-J-0 said in Saving information for route planning:

                    totally agree. Just in planning NOT navigation.

                    That's the first time I hear a bunch of die-hard navigation fans being afraid of POI's...
                    Your opinions are clear, I wonder about the reasoning (if any ๐Ÿ˜‰ ).

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                    • Rob Verhoeff Rob Verhoeff

                      @Bart-DM A dirty mind is a joy forever...

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                      @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew ๐Ÿ˜

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                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                        @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew ๐Ÿ˜

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                        @Corjan-Meijerink Wow ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                        ๐Ÿ“ฑ iOS on iPhone 13 & 16 (mounted on Quadlock or AliExpress extention on BMW-cradle)
                        ๐Ÿš™ Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc
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                        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Saving information for route planning:

                          Okay in the planner. But please not during navigation !

                          @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                          Additional information is for the tank bag not the navigation app.

                          @Dave-J-0 said in Saving information for route planning:

                          totally agree. Just in planning NOT navigation.

                          That's the first time I hear a bunch of die-hard navigation fans being afraid of POI's...
                          Your opinions are clear, I wonder about the reasoning (if any ๐Ÿ˜‰ ).

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                          @Con-Hennekens I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                          I donโ€™t think the original post was concerning POIs.
                          I have no problems with seeing POIs and maybe we could write similar notes in those too. It has already be mentioned that any added URLs or phone numbers to notes could connect directly with a press.

                          Always willing to help if I can.
                          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                          • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                            @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew ๐Ÿ˜

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                            @Corjan-Meijerink ๐Ÿ˜€

                            Always willing to help if I can.
                            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox BJ8

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                            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                              @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew ๐Ÿ˜

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                              @Corjan-Meijerink OMG ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

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                              ๐Ÿ๏ธ Bobber: iPhone 15 Pro + Quad Lock mount
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                              • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                                @Rob-Verhoeff @Bart-DM I am sure it is representative for the actual size of Mr. Cerne Abbas himself @Nick-Carthew ๐Ÿ˜

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                                @Corjan-Meijerink, Well, it's... big... but I doubt navigational instructions are needed... ๐Ÿคฃ

                                @Rob-Verhoeff and @Bart-DM, I suppose you had to google that as well? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                                  @Con-Hennekens I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                                  I donโ€™t think the original post was concerning POIs.
                                  I have no problems with seeing POIs and maybe we could write similar notes in those too. It has already be mentioned that any added URLs or phone numbers to notes could connect directly with a press.

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                                  @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                  I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                                  I know and that's awesome. But if I understand it correctly TS wants exactly that, but not with waypoints. Like a free standing point on the map that is unattached to the route itself. Which sounds like POI to me.

                                  @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                  I donโ€™t think the original post was concerning POIs.

                                  Well,

                                  @Don-Stauffer said in Saving information for route planning:

                                  I start collecting information about potential stops. These are usually towns or attractions in the area. We're looking for lunch mid-day, and food and lodging at night. Hopefully with a nice pub within walking distance of our hotel. This information is collected before choosing a particular road and setting a route.

                                  Also this sounds like POI to me.
                                  Or am I completely misinterpreting that post?

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                    @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                    I think that there is enough information available as we navigate now. We can already leave quite substantial notes in the route points which will soon be read to us with text to speech.

                                    I know and that's awesome. But if I understand it correctly TS wants exactly that, but not with waypoints. Like a free standing point on the map that is unattached to the route itself. Which sounds like POI to me.

                                    @Nick-Carthew said in Saving information for route planning:

                                    I donโ€™t think the original post was concerning POIs.

                                    Well,

                                    @Don-Stauffer said in Saving information for route planning:

                                    I start collecting information about potential stops. These are usually towns or attractions in the area. We're looking for lunch mid-day, and food and lodging at night. Hopefully with a nice pub within walking distance of our hotel. This information is collected before choosing a particular road and setting a route.

                                    Also this sounds like POI to me.
                                    Or am I completely misinterpreting that post?

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                                    @Con-Hennekens To me, the notes would not be about a single point of interest but aspects to consider or be aware of at a location for planning. This may then yield several POIs from the notes and planning for navigation. As @Nick-Carthew said, some of the notes may then find there way into waypoint info notes. I want some information in waypoint notes but not the level that the original suggestion was making as this would be in a separate planning note on the map. That is how I understood it but happy to be corrected.

                                    Kind Regards. Help where I can.
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                                      @Con-Hennekens To me, the notes would not be about a single point of interest but aspects to consider or be aware of at a location for planning. This may then yield several POIs from the notes and planning for navigation. As @Nick-Carthew said, some of the notes may then find there way into waypoint info notes. I want some information in waypoint notes but not the level that the original suggestion was making as this would be in a separate planning note on the map. That is how I understood it but happy to be corrected.

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                                      @Dave-J-0 Thanks for the comments. I think most understand the intent of making notes early in the planning process. These notes are mostly potential spots for lunch, fuel and nightly lodging. The best roads are not much fun if you are running out of daylight in the mountains looking for a place to spend the night.

                                      Even if not initially routed, these locations (call them POI's) can come in very useful if there is a change in plans due to weather or mechanical issues. It also gives a database for future trips in the area. We always try to capture our thought about especially good or bad experiences.

                                      I'm very curious to know how others build their routes. I rely a lot on paper maps, many indicate 'scenic' routes. We always look for the twisty lines. I also search for rider notes from various forums, including BMW and ADV sites. We use a Garmin Zumo and helmet coms, which gives me some help navigating while I focus on the road and traffic.

                                      I am in a good position, my wife and I are both retired, and enjoy traveling the open road. We started an anniversary tradition a few years back of spending 1-2 weeks on a long-distance getaway. Facing a 10 day trip makes planning much more important than it was when I was single, when I would just grab a map and lash a tent and sleeping bag to the bike.

                                      Thanks to all!

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                                        @Dave-J-0 Thanks for the comments. I think most understand the intent of making notes early in the planning process. These notes are mostly potential spots for lunch, fuel and nightly lodging. The best roads are not much fun if you are running out of daylight in the mountains looking for a place to spend the night.

                                        Even if not initially routed, these locations (call them POI's) can come in very useful if there is a change in plans due to weather or mechanical issues. It also gives a database for future trips in the area. We always try to capture our thought about especially good or bad experiences.

                                        I'm very curious to know how others build their routes. I rely a lot on paper maps, many indicate 'scenic' routes. We always look for the twisty lines. I also search for rider notes from various forums, including BMW and ADV sites. We use a Garmin Zumo and helmet coms, which gives me some help navigating while I focus on the road and traffic.

                                        I am in a good position, my wife and I are both retired, and enjoy traveling the open road. We started an anniversary tradition a few years back of spending 1-2 weeks on a long-distance getaway. Facing a 10 day trip makes planning much more important than it was when I was single, when I would just grab a map and lash a tent and sleeping bag to the bike.

                                        Thanks to all!

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                                        @Don-Stauffer said in Saving information for route planning:

                                        I'm very curious to know how others build their routes.

                                        My personal preference is to use the street view within the MRA Planner.
                                        My preference for road types is those narrow country lanes with the grass in the middle. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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                                          Agree, I use 'street view' often, especially when there is a question regarding the type or or condition of a road.

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