The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong
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I've never an old analogue compass at all. Maybe that is the reason why i think it is more logical that the red bar shows the direction your heading and north always is on top on the compass.
If this view is used does the compass then also be more sensible in the North Up view?@M.-Schrijver ...that's the same idea like in the map, if you use the north up view
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If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore
To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W. -
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I usually get off my bike, find a tree, and check which side has the most moss growing on it!
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@Rob-Verhoeff, Tip From Flip: check the time, look at the sun, no need to get off your bike
@Con-Hennekens only works with no clouds
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If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore
To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W.@Con-Hennekens ring with N, S, E and W would be helpful or as the image I posted above.
And the importance of direction or travel with using a compass: https://osmaps.com/discover/guides/a-beginners-guide-to-using-a-compass/
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If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore
To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W.@Con-Hennekens i agree! And wholeheartedly vote for the N, S, W, E marking on the segment ring.
Personally, my map is oriented North, making the compass unnecessary. But during pracricing all the options i found this red segment confusing, thus i created this topic. Turns out i was not the only one. I am sure there are many more who are just silent or do not use the forum. So, hopefully something good will come out of it!Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)
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@Con-Hennekens i agree! And wholeheartedly vote for the N, S, W, E marking on the segment ring.
Personally, my map is oriented North, making the compass unnecessary. But during pracricing all the options i found this red segment confusing, thus i created this topic. Turns out i was not the only one. I am sure there are many more who are just silent or do not use the forum. So, hopefully something good will come out of it!@LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down...
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@LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down...
@LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down...
What about #2 in this descripption:
Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)
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@LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down...
What about #2 in this descripption:
@LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”
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@LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”
@Rob-Verhoeff Bravo! That would stop the confusion for everyone! And this change should be announced to all, as I suspect many people are confused to the point of being frustrated.... me included.
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@LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”
@LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”
LennyO said:
@Rob-Verhoeff Bravo! That would stop the confusion for everyone! And this change should be announced to all, as I suspect many people are confused to the point of being frustrated.... me included.
@nick-carthew Hi, Nick! Would you please assist in correcting the Manual. Thx!
Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)
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@LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”
LennyO said:
@Rob-Verhoeff Bravo! That would stop the confusion for everyone! And this change should be announced to all, as I suspect many people are confused to the point of being frustrated.... me included.
@nick-carthew Hi, Nick! Would you please assist in correcting the Manual. Thx!
@LennyO I’m not responsible for the manual and personally I think the wording is perfectly clear. The view is called ‘North up’ and the definition in the manual says
‘North will always be up’ I’m unsure what part is unclear!
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@LennyO I’m not responsible for the manual and personally I think the wording is perfectly clear. The view is called ‘North up’ and the definition in the manual says
‘North will always be up’ I’m unsure what part is unclear!@Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
Thank you!Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)
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@Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
Thank you!LennyO said:
@Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
Thank you!@nick-carthew Nick, to clarify my previous post I should add - when you are in fact heading North on the map in North up orientation, the Red segment may be pointing somewhere else, but be at the 12 o'clock. And since the Red segment always shows where the North is there is a conflict in the definition in the manual.
Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)
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LennyO said:
@Nick-Carthew Hi, Nick!
Sorry... i thought you are a part of the crew.
The issue is the fact that North will not always be up. I wish it was.
if you put the map in this orientation, you often see that the Red segment on the elevation circle is NOT pointing up, thus contradicting the manual.
Thank you!@nick-carthew Nick, to clarify my previous post I should add - when you are in fact heading North on the map in North up orientation, the Red segment may be pointing somewhere else, but be at the 12 o'clock. And since the Red segment always shows where the North is there is a conflict in the definition in the manual.
@LennyO
Corjan is aware of the situation and although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.Always willing to help if I can.
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@LennyO
Corjan is aware of the situation and although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.
I don’t?
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although he doesn’t reply to many forum posts he does read them.
I don’t?
@Corjan-Meijerink A direct contradiction
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@Rob-Verhoeff Bravo! That would stop the confusion for everyone! And this change should be announced to all, as I suspect many people are confused to the point of being frustrated.... me included.
@LennyO, "North will always be up" in this context refers to the north of the map, not to the north pole
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I know the North Pole and North on the map are not exact the same. But considering the few segments of the compass, should then the north pole and north on the map be same?
(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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