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The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong

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  • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

    In the current situation where the red bar shows north and the bar is on right side of the compass, you need do a conversion to conclude you are riding in west direction. When the red bar shows the direction you're heading. You instant know you're riding to the east.

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    wrote last edited by Brian McG
    #29

    the app & display are doing exactly as designed / intended
    the issue is that in North Up mode you have to do the mental gymnastics that it shows 2 differing north at the same time 🙃

    I have to say I find 2 norths a slightly confusing concepts but it is easily resolved
    either use a different compass mode, I normally use dynamic so this is not a problem for me

    or turn of the altitude display completely, its not really important / relevant information
    & I would rather use the few brain cells I have on figuring out what is happening ahead of me on the road than deciding which north is real 😂

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    • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

      I've never an old analogue compass at all. Maybe that is the reason why i think it is more logical that the red bar shows the direction your heading and north always is on top on the compass.
      If this view is used does the compass then also be more sensible in the North Up view?

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      #30

      @M.-Schrijver ...that's the same idea like in the map, if you use the north up view 🙄

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        If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore 😉 To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.

        Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
        Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W.

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          I usually get off my bike, find a tree, and check which side has the most moss growing on it!

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          • Rob Verhoeff Rob Verhoeff

            I usually get off my bike, find a tree, and check which side has the most moss growing on it!

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            @Rob-Verhoeff, Tip From Flip: check the time, look at the sun, no need to get off your bike 😉

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            • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

              @Rob-Verhoeff, Tip From Flip: check the time, look at the sun, no need to get off your bike 😉

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              @Con-Hennekens only works with no clouds 😉

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              • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore 😉 To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.

                Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
                Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W.

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                #35

                @Con-Hennekens ring with N, S, E and W would be helpful or as the image I posted above.

                And the importance of direction or travel with using a compass: https://osmaps.com/discover/guides/a-beginners-guide-to-using-a-compass/

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                • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                  If the red segment did show the direction of travel, it would not be called a compass. A compass just shows where North is. I bet in about ten years people also cannot read analogue clocks anymore 😉 To be honest, if we have to think about the direction of travel when we know where North is, knowing the direction of travel probably has little value at all.

                  Maybe a green segment showing the direction of travel is an idea?
                  Or indeed an extra ring showing N, E, S and W.

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                  #36

                  @Con-Hennekens i agree! And wholeheartedly vote for the N, S, W, E marking on the segment ring.
                  Personally, my map is oriented North, making the compass unnecessary. But during pracricing all the options i found this red segment confusing, thus i created this topic. Turns out i was not the only one. I am sure there are many more who are just silent or do not use the forum. So, hopefully something good will come out of it!

                  Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                  • LennyO LennyO

                    @Con-Hennekens i agree! And wholeheartedly vote for the N, S, W, E marking on the segment ring.
                    Personally, my map is oriented North, making the compass unnecessary. But during pracricing all the options i found this red segment confusing, thus i created this topic. Turns out i was not the only one. I am sure there are many more who are just silent or do not use the forum. So, hopefully something good will come out of it!

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                    @LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down... 😉

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                      @LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down... 😉

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                      @Con-Hennekens said:

                      @LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down... 😉
                      😰

                      What about #2 in this descripption:

                      bdd66692-1265-4262-93d4-b722172dac3e-image.jpeg

                      Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                      • LennyO LennyO

                        @Con-Hennekens said:

                        @LennyO, Remember that "North UP" does not show where North is whatsoever. It just indicates you are not holding the map upside down... 😉
                        😰

                        What about #2 in this descripption:

                        bdd66692-1265-4262-93d4-b722172dac3e-image.jpeg

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                        @LennyO I think it should say: “In this camera mode, the map does not rotate with your direction of travel but always remains oriented toward the top of the map.”

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