The compas direction on the elevation circle is wrong

[LennyO]

@Marinus-van-Deudekom The behavior of the Red segment is the same in every mode. I just verrified it on a ride this morning. In the Dynamic mode the Blue Arrow in the bottom right acts as a compass too, and it coinsides with the Red segment behavior.

[Corjan Meijerink]

Agree that it looks strange in the north up view.
The red sections points to where north is.
Compared to your physical orientation, not the map on your screen.

[Brian McG]

@Corjan-Meijerink said:
The red sections points to where north is.

North is north is north, if the map is north up then north is up
In north up mode should the red section on the compass not always be at the top & not change?

[LennyO]

@Brian-McG Evidently only if you are heading North all the time

[Stanisław]

I think in north-up map orientation, the red segment should simply disappear, as it is not useful

[Brian McG]

@Corjan-Meijerink apologies I think I now see your logic about your physical orientation & the direction of the altitude pointer, although for me it took some mental gymnastics to get there

the way I think it is working is you have to discount everything else in the MRA display & treat the altitude pointer compass as a separate device, like imagining an old fashioned compass sitting on the fuel cap of your bike
if I am riding heading east, then north is on my left shoulder & the altitude pointer compass wil point to the left of my phone screen
if I am riding heading west, then north is on my right shoulder & the altitude pointer compass will point to the right of my phone screen

again apologies but for me it was just not an intuitive bit of UI

[LennyO]

I also had a hard time with this....
I guess the simplest way to grasp the Red segment position in relation to your movement is to imagine yourself sitting inside the elevation circle heading in the 12 o'clock direction.

[Corjan Meijerink]

It’s completely correct! Has no relation with the map. Indeed like an actual compass strapped om your screen.

It makes sense but in north up it’s confusing.
Pinning it north or hiding it will make most sense I guess.

[Con Hennekens]

It seems current generations do not have much experience with (analogue) compasses anymore

[CD130]

If every change has to preserve the old way of doing things, innovation simply comes to a standstill Not every new design will be everyone’s favorite right away, but progress sometimes means moving on from older concepts 🧭

In another topic, I already mentioned that I’m not a fan of the current display. You now have to constantly think about which direction you’re heading, whereas it should be something you can understand at a glance.