Reading out the name of the waypoint and associated notes

[Herman Veldhuizen]

@Nick-Carthew Auto-skipping and Reading out waypoints are related because users use shaping point to work around the fact that via points cannot be auto-skipped.
I think that the current behaviour is the most difficult to document (At least I haven't seen any docu explaining that waypoints are skipped depending on where the next point is and how many times the app tries to sent you back). Many times we see posts here about the app not skipping as expected. And apparently there is something missing in the Sdk to know when the route is rejoined. Therefore my suggestion to not change anything until the auto-skipping is solved. Then I think the app is better and easier to document.

[M. Schrijver]

@Brian-McG said:

more often than not other points you create will have automatically have number in the name, like the post/area code, & these will not be read out because they contain a number
adding a number to the name of point will silence the announcement, if there is nothing in the notes field.

This where something goes wrong. At least for me.
For "Waypoint Notifications" you can choose between: Off, Via and All.
I have "All" selected because i want to hear the Notes and on purpose selected names connected to a Shaping point because i don't use Viapoints.
But in my case with this setting i hear 98% of what is mentioned in the name field of a waypoint.
Like: "You reached waypoint 9" or "You reached Voorstraat 9 8021 BB Zwolle" or whatever MRA routeplanner by itself put in that namefield.

[Lenny O]

@Nick-Carthew Nick, this particular one is super small and easy.
And if we worry about the size of the manual, then all development has to stop... no?
To be honest, I don't think we have a single user who read the whole manual.
It most likely is a reference for people to "learn as they go" or have issues kind of thing.

And as you already read all of the above comments, you must see all the various acrobatics and extra work that people have to perform in order to achieve a simple, logical, needed convenience of hearing only the important and relevant information as they navigate... and resolving this is very easy from the programming standpoint, making the App so much more useful.

But hey, what do I know

[Con Hennekens]

@M.-Schrijver, yes they are announced, if you have that enabled, but what I meant is that the name of a waypoint is not being spoken if it contains numerical characters (indicating an address) AND the note field is empty. They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Con-Hennekens said:

Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

Since I manually move each waypoint on every route to align it exactly with the line, the waypoint's address is accompanied by numbers during this maneuver.

I can confirm what Con said... the only message given is “Waypoint xx reached.”

[Lenny O]

@Con-Hennekens said:

They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

Hi, Con!
Not arguing, just please help me out here. What is the significance of this announcement in general?
I would expect a user to know approximately where they are, and if one needs to know the next waypoint - it is right there, in the upper right corner of the screen.

I, personally, would much prefer the meaningful info that I set up to hear, instead of unwanted info forced upon me that constantly interruptions my conversation with the group or music I am listening to.
Thanks, buddy!

[Con Hennekens]

@Lenny-O said:

I, personally, would much prefer the meaningful info that I set up to hear

Exactly that is what you get of you alter the name or fill the notes field

Also I find it reassuring to hear that I reached a waypoint every now and then. If it gets annoying, you probably use too many waypoints? If you do not want to hear the announcements, you can disable it for shaping points, but you will need to turn route points with extra info into VIA points to hear them on the road. So there is plenty to choose from.

[Guzzist]

@Lenny-O said:
So, in combination the great, needed and very usefull feature is not used by many because of not being "user-friendly" (as we call it in the IT world).

In the settings, you can select, if a newly entered waypoint should have the full postal address or not. If not, you can leave it blanc, than it will not be audible...

[Lenny O]

@Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Lenny-O I think he's referring to the editor settings in the toolkit on the website.

There's an option there......Ask for the route point name.

If you enable this option, when you place the waypoint, you can choose whether to keep the default name, assign a name of your choice, or delete everything right away.

[Lenny O]

@Peter-Zehentreiter With that option if you just highlite the address and Delete it, it goes into a stupor...
Seems like you have to actually hit the space bar at least once for it to take the empty address / name.

[Leike Lodiers]

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[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Lenny-O Just highlight the text provided, enter any number, and then click “Accept.”

That way, when you're navigating, you should only hear the prompt... “Waypoint xx reached.”

[Peter Zehentreiter]

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[Leike Lodiers]

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[Guzzist]

@Lenny-O said:

@Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

If you enter a new waypoint in MRA-Routeplanner, it will be set without any comment:

If you click onto the waypoint icon, you will see the name of it:

but goto "Page menue", scroll down to "Editor settings", select "Ask for waypoint name":

then if you enter a new waypoint, there comes a popup, showing the postal address of this waypoint as suggestion. But you can simply delete it by hit the blanc space key. Then the waypoint will not have a name anymore:

[Con Hennekens]

Just to be clear: In this case:

The name will not be spoken (if the note field is empty), since any numerical character in that field will indicate it as an (uninteresting) address. Only the "Waypoint xx reached" messagage will be audible. Therefore it is unnecessary to put a space in the name field instead.

[Lenny O]

@Con-Hennekens said:

"Waypoint xx reached"

Absolutely correct!
Yet, I still see zero value in this announcement. Do you see ANY value in it ?
I am trying to come up with the scenario where it would be useful, but can not so far...