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Reading out the name of the waypoint and associated notes

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  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

    I’m not persuaded by either argument, my concern is another setting to choose from which adds yet another level of complexity. The manual for the app is going to end up as thick as War and Peace!

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    @Nick-Carthew Nick, this particular one is super small and easy.
    And if we worry about the size of the manual, then all development has to stop... no? 🤔
    To be honest, I don't think we have a single user who read the whole manual.
    It most likely is a reference for people to "learn as they go" or have issues kind of thing.

    And as you already read all of the above comments, you must see all the various acrobatics and extra work that people have to perform in order to achieve a simple, logical, needed convenience of hearing only the important and relevant information as they navigate... and resolving this is very easy from the programming standpoint, making the App so much more useful.

    But hey, what do I know 🙂

    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

      For me it is fine that Via points cannot be skipped automatic. I don't like that feature but i'm not obligated to use Viapoint when planning.
      @con-hennekens You say, when the name field of a waypoint meet some terms, it is not being announced. I can tell you there is something wrong with those terms or how those terms are implemented.
      When i make a route. All my default (blue) waypoints have their default name given by the MRA Planner. 98% of them are being announced in de navigation. It can be an address but also just a waypoint number.

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      @M.-Schrijver, yes they are announced, if you have that enabled, but what I meant is that the name of a waypoint is not being spoken if it contains numerical characters (indicating an address) AND the note field is empty. They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @M.-Schrijver, yes they are announced, if you have that enabled, but what I meant is that the name of a waypoint is not being spoken if it contains numerical characters (indicating an address) AND the note field is empty. They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

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        @Con-Hennekens said:

        Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

        Since I manually move each waypoint on every route to align it exactly with the line, the waypoint's address is accompanied by numbers during this maneuver.

        I can confirm what Con said... the only message given is “Waypoint xx reached.”

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @M.-Schrijver, yes they are announced, if you have that enabled, but what I meant is that the name of a waypoint is not being spoken if it contains numerical characters (indicating an address) AND the note field is empty. They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

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          @Con-Hennekens said:

          They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

          Hi, Con!
          Not arguing, just please help me out here. What is the significance of this announcement in general?
          I would expect a user to know approximately where they are, and if one needs to know the next waypoint - it is right there, in the upper right corner of the screen. 😜

          I, personally, would much prefer the meaningful info that I set up to hear, instead of unwanted info forced upon me that constantly interruptions my conversation with the group or music I am listening to.
          Thanks, buddy!

          Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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          • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

            @Con-Hennekens said:

            They do get announced indeed, but only with: "Route point xx has been reached" (or similar wording).

            Hi, Con!
            Not arguing, just please help me out here. What is the significance of this announcement in general?
            I would expect a user to know approximately where they are, and if one needs to know the next waypoint - it is right there, in the upper right corner of the screen. 😜

            I, personally, would much prefer the meaningful info that I set up to hear, instead of unwanted info forced upon me that constantly interruptions my conversation with the group or music I am listening to.
            Thanks, buddy!

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            @Lenny-O said:

            I, personally, would much prefer the meaningful info that I set up to hear

            Exactly that is what you get of you alter the name or fill the notes field 😉

            Also I find it reassuring to hear that I reached a waypoint every now and then. If it gets annoying, you probably use too many waypoints? If you do not want to hear the announcements, you can disable it for shaping points, but you will need to turn route points with extra info into VIA points to hear them on the road. So there is plenty to choose from.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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            • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

              I think it should be quite easy to implement the distinction between the points having Notes and the ones that do not for read-outs. (I am a retired IT programmer).
              Another super annoying thing when it reads out ALL shaping points is that it first reads out the location of the waypoint, and I mean FULL ADDRESS, including the Country and the postal code..... before it actually reads the Notes.
              To prevent that you'd have to rename or blank out the address of EVERY shaping point, which is crazy 🙂
              So, in combination the great, needed and very usefull feature is not used by many because of not being "user-friendly" (as we call it in the IT world).

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              @Lenny-O said:
              So, in combination the great, needed and very usefull feature is not used by many because of not being "user-friendly" (as we call it in the IT world).

              In the settings, you can select, if a newly entered waypoint should have the full postal address or not. If not, you can leave it blanc, than it will not be audible...

              Nothing is impossible ;-)
              In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
              In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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              • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                @Lenny-O said:
                So, in combination the great, needed and very usefull feature is not used by many because of not being "user-friendly" (as we call it in the IT world).

                In the settings, you can select, if a newly entered waypoint should have the full postal address or not. If not, you can leave it blanc, than it will not be audible...

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                @Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

                Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                  @Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

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                  @Lenny-O I think he's referring to the editor settings in the toolkit on the website.

                  There's an option there......Ask for the route point name.

                  If you enable this option, when you place the waypoint, you can choose whether to keep the default name, assign a name of your choice, or delete everything right away.

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                  • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                    @Lenny-O I think he's referring to the editor settings in the toolkit on the website.

                    There's an option there......Ask for the route point name.

                    If you enable this option, when you place the waypoint, you can choose whether to keep the default name, assign a name of your choice, or delete everything right away.

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                    @Peter-Zehentreiter With that option if you just highlite the address and Delete it, it goes into a stupor...
                    Seems like you have to actually hit the space bar at least once for it to take the empty address / name.

                    Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                    • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                      @Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

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                      • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                        @Peter-Zehentreiter With that option if you just highlite the address and Delete it, it goes into a stupor...
                        Seems like you have to actually hit the space bar at least once for it to take the empty address / name.

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                        @Lenny-O Just highlight the text provided, enter any number, and then click “Accept.”

                        That way, when you're navigating, you should only hear the prompt... “Waypoint xx reached.”

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                            • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                              @Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

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                              @Lenny-O said:

                              @Guzzist Thank you! What setting is that, please?

                              If you enter a new waypoint in MRA-Routeplanner, it will be set without any comment:
                              1000004140.jpg

                              If you click onto the waypoint icon, you will see the name of it:
                              1000004142.jpg

                              but goto "Page menue", scroll down to "Editor settings", select "Ask for waypoint name":
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                              then if you enter a new waypoint, there comes a popup, showing the postal address of this waypoint as suggestion. But you can simply delete it by hit the blanc space key. Then the waypoint will not have a name anymore:
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                              Nothing is impossible ;-)
                              In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                              In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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