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  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

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    https://youtu.be/ickvZkgX7dQ

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    wrote on last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
    #5

    @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
    @Shinja-Strasser

    'Manual 'Display and merge multiple routes' (click)

    https://youtu.be/ickvZkgX7dQ

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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

      @Shinja-Strasser

      https://youtu.be/ickvZkgX7dQ

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      wrote on last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
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      @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master said in How to merge two tracks:

      @shinja-strasser

      https://youtu.be/ickvZkgX7dQ

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      • sudolea sudolea

        @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master said in How to merge two tracks:

        @shinja-strasser

        https://youtu.be/ickvZkgX7dQ

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        @sudolea
        This one is a MRA support article:
        'Manual 'Display and merge multiple routes' (click)

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        • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

          @shinja-strasser As @Jack-van-Tilburg said, you can’t merge tracks but you can convert the tracklogs to routes and then merge them.

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          @nick-carthew said in How to merge two tracks:

          @shinja-strasser As @Jack-van-Tilburg said, you can’t merge tracks but you can convert the tracklogs to routes and then merge them.

          ... which unfortunately doesn't work very well with longer routes (e.g. a route through France from North to South), as these don't retain enough routepoints to keep it equal to the original track...

          And yes, there are use cases where I've missed this (I could specify, if really needed), despite the adagio "split your routes into smaller chunks".

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          • sudolea sudolea

            @nick-carthew said in How to merge two tracks:

            @shinja-strasser As @Jack-van-Tilburg said, you can’t merge tracks but you can convert the tracklogs to routes and then merge them.

            ... which unfortunately doesn't work very well with longer routes (e.g. a route through France from North to South), as these don't retain enough routepoints to keep it equal to the original track...

            And yes, there are use cases where I've missed this (I could specify, if really needed), despite the adagio "split your routes into smaller chunks".

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            @sudolea said in How to merge two tracks:

            @nick-carthew said in How to merge two tracks:

            @shinja-strasser As @Jack-van-Tilburg said, you can’t merge tracks but you can convert the tracklogs to routes and then merge them.

            ... which unfortunately doesn't work very well with longer routes (e.g. a route through France from North to South), as these don't retain enough routepoints to keep it equal to the original track...

            And yes, there are use cases where I've missed this (I could specify, if really needed), despite the adagio "split your routes into smaller chunks".

            If route ‘A contains 20 route points and route ‘B contains 20 route points when you merge them the new route will contain 40 route points.

            Always willing to help if I can.
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            • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

              @sudolea said in How to merge two tracks:

              @nick-carthew said in How to merge two tracks:

              @shinja-strasser As @Jack-van-Tilburg said, you can’t merge tracks but you can convert the tracklogs to routes and then merge them.

              ... which unfortunately doesn't work very well with longer routes (e.g. a route through France from North to South), as these don't retain enough routepoints to keep it equal to the original track...

              And yes, there are use cases where I've missed this (I could specify, if really needed), despite the adagio "split your routes into smaller chunks".

              If route ‘A contains 20 route points and route ‘B contains 20 route points when you merge them the new route will contain 40 route points.

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              @nick-carthew Then the problem is with the conversion of the individual tracks to the individual routes, as I saw significant differences. The explanation I had found out for myself (maybe not correctly), was the limitation of the number of route points - because, if I remember correctly, I already was confronted in the past with that limitation... Maybe that was not the explanation, but the differences were significant anyhow...

              I know, the "answer" with differing routes in such cases is to make the routes equal to the original tracks. However, this wasn't feasible in my use case : way to much work for the simple test I wanted to do (i.e. to see how much riding time this long trip would take).

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              • sudolea sudolea

                @nick-carthew Then the problem is with the conversion of the individual tracks to the individual routes, as I saw significant differences. The explanation I had found out for myself (maybe not correctly), was the limitation of the number of route points - because, if I remember correctly, I already was confronted in the past with that limitation... Maybe that was not the explanation, but the differences were significant anyhow...

                I know, the "answer" with differing routes in such cases is to make the routes equal to the original tracks. However, this wasn't feasible in my use case : way to much work for the simple test I wanted to do (i.e. to see how much riding time this long trip would take).

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                @sudolea When you convert a track to a route, a pop up box appears reminding you to check each route point for accuracy.

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                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
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                • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                  @sudolea When you convert a track to a route, a pop up box appears reminding you to check each route point for accuracy.

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                  @nick-carthew said in How to merge two tracks:

                  @sudolea When you convert a track to a route, a pop up box appears reminding you to check each route point for accuracy.

                  Yes, but I did mention I didn't have the time for my use case, did I ? I wasn't planning a trip, I just wanted to know how long riding time this route took.

                  Whereby I mean there really are use cases where the possibility to merge tracks is useful. Nothing more (FWIW, I got the information I was after, using BaseCamp).

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                    For people looking for alternatives:

                    For tracks, you can open the GPX (which is just an XML file) in a text editor and copy/paste the sections with the waypoints / coordinates together in one file.
                    But the layout or wordwrapping of the XML files may differ greatly, making it cumbersome.
                    There are various online tools that allow you to merge the GPX files. I used https://gpx.studio/app just now which has a straightforward approach.

                    1. Using File, Open, I added the GPX files.
                    2. Using the left bar, there is a button to "Merge items together"
                    3. Using CTRL+CLICK the tool allows you to stitch the traces together
                    4. Using File, Export you can export it to a new GPX file
                    5. You can then upload/import the merged GPX file in MRA

                    Also, the app has options to decrease the number of waypoints and request and add elevation data

                    And while I understand the option to convert to routes first and then merge, I would welcome an option in MRA to merge tracks.
                    And then perhaps convert the result to a route.

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                      To operate tracks isn't the main competence of MRA. May in future...

                      Nothing is impossible ;-)
                      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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