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  • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Offline
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    When creating a route that stays in a singular area, or creating off-road tracks, and you want to re-arrange things, it can get pretty messy pretty quickly when you need to move each point at a time. It would be awesome if you could re-arrange a complete block of multiple points in a single go.

    Either via a multi-select and drag or a little like how the split function works, select start and end-point and select where you want to push the selected block to.

    For example, this block are basically all 'skipped' points, this works to create a track on unpaved roads that are ignored by the algorithms, but now I want those 24 points in another 'section' of my complete track/route.

    21e193f2-42c3-4365-b02f-fc9851283cab-image.jpeg

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    • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Yannick_van_Vugt

      When creating a route that stays in a singular area, or creating off-road tracks, and you want to re-arrange things, it can get pretty messy pretty quickly when you need to move each point at a time. It would be awesome if you could re-arrange a complete block of multiple points in a single go.

      Either via a multi-select and drag or a little like how the split function works, select start and end-point and select where you want to push the selected block to.

      For example, this block are basically all 'skipped' points, this works to create a track on unpaved roads that are ignored by the algorithms, but now I want those 24 points in another 'section' of my complete track/route.

      21e193f2-42c3-4365-b02f-fc9851283cab-image.jpeg

      Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
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      @Yannick_van_Vugt what you're asking is pretty much impossible given the position of all those shaping points in your example

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Yannick_van_Vugt what you're asking is pretty much impossible given the position of all those shaping points in your example

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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom It's the recommended way to create tracks on unpaved roads. Not my idea. 🙂

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        • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Yannick_van_Vugt

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom It's the recommended way to create tracks on unpaved roads. Not my idea. 🙂

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          @Yannick_van_Vugt that's true.😁 😁 But it creates a problem when you want to replace you're route to a other road. I think to help you're self, don't place to many way point to follow the offroad way. Choose the most critical point on the way so when you see a crossing or split of the way place one there . You don't need to follow the whole way with waypoint.

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          • Leike Lodiersundefined Leike Lodiers

            @Yannick_van_Vugt that's true.😁 😁 But it creates a problem when you want to replace you're route to a other road. I think to help you're self, don't place to many way point to follow the offroad way. Choose the most critical point on the way so when you see a crossing or split of the way place one there . You don't need to follow the whole way with waypoint.

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            wrote last edited by Yannick_van_Vugt
            #5

            @Leike-Lodiers It is nice to have and there is no reason not to. Except for the fact that if you want to move a whole block of routepoints.

            Same could be said if you have a lot of little towns and you want to change that order by a block of points. It is not really an unnecessary feature, I called it "move" in my primary post, but it would also be great if a multi-select could be done to delete a big part of the route.

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              #6

              Yes, that last suggestion does seem like a good option to me. Selecting multiple points to delete them all at once. At the moment, if I want to change part of the route, I have to delete each point in that section individually. It would be easier if I could delete those route points all at once. And it would be even better if you could then see the selected section with the route points on the map as well!

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              • David Joblingundefined Offline
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                I'd like to see a way to work on a group of waypoints too. Some of my routes are figure 8 or cloverleaf and I like to reverse (or remove) sections of the route to keep it interesting. If we could select a group of waypoints in the list, then delete / reverse / move them, I'd be very happy 🙂

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                • David Joblingundefined David Jobling

                  I'd like to see a way to work on a group of waypoints too. Some of my routes are figure 8 or cloverleaf and I like to reverse (or remove) sections of the route to keep it interesting. If we could select a group of waypoints in the list, then delete / reverse / move them, I'd be very happy 🙂

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                  @David-Jobling said:

                  I'd like to see a way to work on a group of waypoints too. Some of my routes are figure 8 or cloverleaf and I like to reverse (or remove) sections of the route to keep it interesting. If we could select a group of waypoints in the list, then delete / reverse / move them, I'd be very happy 🙂

                  You get my exact idea. 😌👌🏻
                  Feels like a basic feature that should’ve always been there.

                  📷: YannickvanVugt | 🏍️: DutchTransalp

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                  • Jörgenundefined Offline
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                    Hi,
                    I don't quite understand the point of moving multiple waypoints. That would cause all the geographic coordinates to shift at the same time, which would result in an uncontrolled track.

                    Just a copy/paste sample
                    move.jpeg

                    Copying multiple waypoints to use them in a new route makes more sense.

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                      I think group delete will be fine.
                      Moving will indeed be not possible.

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                      de Garmin Zumo XT en M.R.A. in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!) en een Samsung Galaxy S24

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                        I agree, copy and delete.

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                        • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                          Hi,
                          I don't quite understand the point of moving multiple waypoints. That would cause all the geographic coordinates to shift at the same time, which would result in an uncontrolled track.

                          Just a copy/paste sample
                          move.jpeg

                          Copying multiple waypoints to use them in a new route makes more sense.

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                          wrote last edited by
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                          @Jörgen said:

                          Hi,
                          I don't quite understand the point of moving multiple waypoints. That would cause all the geographic coordinates to shift at the same time, which would result in an uncontrolled track.

                          Just a copy/paste sample
                          move.jpeg

                          Copying multiple waypoints to use them in a new route makes more sense.

                          @white.mouse said:

                          I think group delete will be fine.
                          Moving will indeed be not possible.

                          It’s not about moving them physically, it’s about moving them in order in the list of routepoints. Have you guys even read the thread properly? Change them from 59-84 to let’s say 20-45 in a single go.

                          📷: YannickvanVugt | 🏍️: DutchTransalp

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                          • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Yannick_van_Vugt

                            @Jörgen said:

                            Hi,
                            I don't quite understand the point of moving multiple waypoints. That would cause all the geographic coordinates to shift at the same time, which would result in an uncontrolled track.

                            Just a copy/paste sample
                            move.jpeg

                            Copying multiple waypoints to use them in a new route makes more sense.

                            @white.mouse said:

                            I think group delete will be fine.
                            Moving will indeed be not possible.

                            It’s not about moving them physically, it’s about moving them in order in the list of routepoints. Have you guys even read the thread properly? Change them from 59-84 to let’s say 20-45 in a single go.

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                            @Yannick_van_Vugt Yes I have but want you want is not possible at all

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                              It shouldn't be too difficult? We can do it now, one-by-one (but it is slow and can be confusing, and MRA recalculates for each waypoint), I'd just like to work on several adjacent points at the same time.

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                                2026-07-27_171732.jpg
                                Simple example of the request (hoping the image uploads OK): I want to do waypoints 6-7-8-9 before 2-3-4-5. Secondly, I'd like to reverse 6-7-8-9 (only) without changing the rest of the route.
                                Reason: I do some routes twice a year, wonderful roads, I like to vary the sequence / direction to keep it interesting 🙂

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                                • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Yannick_van_Vugt

                                  When creating a route that stays in a singular area, or creating off-road tracks, and you want to re-arrange things, it can get pretty messy pretty quickly when you need to move each point at a time. It would be awesome if you could re-arrange a complete block of multiple points in a single go.

                                  Either via a multi-select and drag or a little like how the split function works, select start and end-point and select where you want to push the selected block to.

                                  For example, this block are basically all 'skipped' points, this works to create a track on unpaved roads that are ignored by the algorithms, but now I want those 24 points in another 'section' of my complete track/route.

                                  21e193f2-42c3-4365-b02f-fc9851283cab-image.jpeg

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                                  • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                    @Yannick_van_Vugt Yes I have but want you want is not possible at all

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                                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom Currently it isn't, that's why I brought it on as a suggestion. Right?
                                    Other see the value of my request, I understand you don't, but if it ain't valuable to you, or you don't use the tool in a certain way, doesn't mean it's not for someone else.

                                    @Brian-McG Yes, possible, but that shouldn't be needed and is devious work. It also floods the database and back-end with splits and merges, that will later be deleted. This feature is will prevent that as well.

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                                    • Yannick_van_Vugtundefined Yannick_van_Vugt

                                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Currently it isn't, that's why I brought it on as a suggestion. Right?
                                      Other see the value of my request, I understand you don't, but if it ain't valuable to you, or you don't use the tool in a certain way, doesn't mean it's not for someone else.

                                      @Brian-McG Yes, possible, but that shouldn't be needed and is devious work. It also floods the database and back-end with splits and merges, that will later be deleted. This feature is will prevent that as well.

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                                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Currently it isn't, that's why I brought it on as a suggestion. Right?
                                        Other see the value of my request, I understand you don't, but if it ain't valuable to you, or you don't use the tool in a certain way, doesn't mean it's not for someone else.

                                        @Brian-McG Yes, possible, but that shouldn't be needed and is devious work. It also floods the database and back-end with splits and merges, that will later be deleted. This feature is will prevent that as well.

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                                        @Yannick_van_Vugt said:

                                        Other see the value of my request, I understand you don't, but if it ain't valuable to you, or you don't use the tool in a certain way, doesn't mean it's not for someone else.

                                        Its not that I dont want to use such a tool. I just think that its just impossible

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