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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    So the system text size screws things up?
    Interesting (because our app does not support different text size). Seems like the (custom?) Android does something different than expected.

    About the full screen setting in MRA, this only applies while navigating 😉

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    @Corjan-Meijerink said in Unable to stop navigation:

    So the system text size screws things up?

    About the full screen setting in MRA, this only applies while navigating 😉

    Yeep - several apps reacts on text size in system settings: if you increase text size in system setting off an per example 7 inch tablet - view on screen changes to behaviour of 6 inch phone!
    Not only on bumpy roads, a bigger text on screen is really helpful - therefore a tablet device for navigation. Because MyRoute-App doesn't offer text scaling, I use system own text scaling.

    Ok for me, if MyRoute-App uses full screen mode only during navigation. But as long as I don't have confirmed both questions about to stop the navigation - I'm IN navigation! 😉

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      @Guzzist said in Unable to stop navigation:

      Why question twice?

      There is a good reason for that 😉 The first question is merely "Stop navigation (for now)". Resume let's your "resume" your navigation from the point where you left it. If you did not stop navigation, there would be no specific point to resume it. Once you answer no to resume, you cannot "resume" the route from the specific point where you left it. From that point on you can only restart the route and manually select the route point from where to start, OR make use of the "start from nearest route point" feature. That will not always be the same.

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      @Con-Hennekens said in Unable to stop navigation:

      @Guzzist said in Unable to stop navigation:

      Why question twice?

      There is a good reason for that... 😉

      hmmm as usually you may are right. I'm thinking, where the benefit is... 🙄

      Nothing is impossible ;-)
      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

        @Con-Hennekens said in Unable to stop navigation:

        @Guzzist said in Unable to stop navigation:

        Why question twice?

        There is a good reason for that... 😉

        hmmm as usually you may are right. I'm thinking, where the benefit is... 🙄

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        @Guzzist, You don't think being able to pause (stop) a route and to continue where you left off is a benefit? 😉

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Guzzist, You don't think being able to pause (stop) a route and to continue where you left off is a benefit? 😉

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          @Con-Hennekens ...so this double confirmation to end ongoing navigation is a kind of "pause navigation"? Until now, I had never thought of pausing navigation. Not when refuelling, not during a toilet break, not even during lunch.
          I'll try using it next time... 😇

          Nothing is impossible ;-)
          In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
          In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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          • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

            @Con-Hennekens ...so this double confirmation to end ongoing navigation is a kind of "pause navigation"? Until now, I had never thought of pausing navigation. Not when refuelling, not during a toilet break, not even during lunch.
            I'll try using it next time... 😇

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            @Guzzist 100% intended as a pause feature

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              Yesterday I was readymade show Corjan the problem realy time but as always. When I tried the problem was gone. I guess it’s the magic of our Devs

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                Yesterday I was readymade show Corjan the problem realy time but as always. When I tried the problem was gone. I guess it’s the magic of our Devs

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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom 🤣

                Nothing is impossible ;-)
                In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

                  @Con-Hennekens ...so this double confirmation to end ongoing navigation is a kind of "pause navigation"? Until now, I had never thought of pausing navigation. Not when refuelling, not during a toilet break, not even during lunch.
                  I'll try using it next time... 😇

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                  @Guzzist said in Unable to stop navigation:

                  so this double confirmation to end ongoing navigation is a kind of "pause navigation"?

                  Yes it is 😉 and to be able to quickly resume from where you paused / stopped.
                  In the past often the app tried multiple recalculations while refueling (the bike or the body, whichever) causing some waypoints to be skipped. Although that does not occur much anymore, because of some other improvements, it is still a sensible feature 😉

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                  • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Online
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                    i find the double confirmation annoying and haven't seen it in other apps.
                    Wouldn't be one dialog (with the buttons Resume and Stop) be enough?
                    Another solution could be to have it work like the Lock: it could bring up a navigate and dtop icon on the screen.

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                    • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

                      i find the double confirmation annoying and haven't seen it in other apps.
                      Wouldn't be one dialog (with the buttons Resume and Stop) be enough?
                      Another solution could be to have it work like the Lock: it could bring up a navigate and dtop icon on the screen.

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                      @Herman-Veldhuizen How often do you press stop because you find it annoying?

                      Con has already mentioned all the advantages. If it bothers you, you can let the navigation run during a break, and the double confirmation at the end of the route shouldn't be considered annoying.

                      Referring to other apps that do things differently... I think it's good that there are different apps that work in different ways and have different features, so everyone can choose the app that suits them best.

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                      • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                        @Herman-Veldhuizen How often do you press stop because you find it annoying?

                        Con has already mentioned all the advantages. If it bothers you, you can let the navigation run during a break, and the double confirmation at the end of the route shouldn't be considered annoying.

                        Referring to other apps that do things differently... I think it's good that there are different apps that work in different ways and have different features, so everyone can choose the app that suits them best.

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                        @Peter-Zehentreiter Well I never felt the need to pause the navigation. So stop (end) is the only thing I needed so far. I use it to e.g. restart a navigation with different settings or to select another route to navigate.

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                        • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

                          @Peter-Zehentreiter Well I never felt the need to pause the navigation. So stop (end) is the only thing I needed so far. I use it to e.g. restart a navigation with different settings or to select another route to navigate.

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                          @Herman-Veldhuizen, many people did feel that need and explicitly asked for this feature. Personally, I usually just force close the app, by a swipe up.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                            @Herman-Veldhuizen, many people did feel that need and explicitly asked for this feature. Personally, I usually just force close the app, by a swipe up.

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                            @Con-Hennekens I am not asking to take away the pause but to reduce the number of clicks.

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                            • Herman Veldhuizenundefined Herman Veldhuizen

                              @Con-Hennekens I am not asking to take away the pause but to reduce the number of clicks.

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                              @Herman-Veldhuizen, you do not need to do any extra click, you can leave that resume box untouched and just enter the routes menu to select another route.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                @Herman-Veldhuizen, you do not need to do any extra click, you can leave that resume box untouched and just enter the routes menu to select another route.

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                                @Con-Hennekens yes but its still confusing as the dialog is still there after having selected another route. The dialog hides the opening page of the new route. At least on my android phone.

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                                  @Herman-Veldhuizen You seem to be making a very simple process incredibly complicated.
                                  You decide to stop somewhere and tap the 3 dots to open the navigation menu, you tap Stop navigation and then you are asked to confirm this by tapping a large Confirm button. The confirm button is there to safeguard any wrong taps that could be made when wearing gloves. The app is now in a paused state, you can swipe up and close the app if you want to. You can now watch YouTube videos, play a game of solitaire on your phone and when you’re ready to continue your journey, you open the app and the screen shows you a choice - Resume navigation - you can tap No or Navigate. What part of this simple process do you want to eliminate?

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                                  • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                    @Herman-Veldhuizen You seem to be making a very simple process incredibly complicated.
                                    You decide to stop somewhere and tap the 3 dots to open the navigation menu, you tap Stop navigation and then you are asked to confirm this by tapping a large Confirm button. The confirm button is there to safeguard any wrong taps that could be made when wearing gloves. The app is now in a paused state, you can swipe up and close the app if you want to. You can now watch YouTube videos, play a game of solitaire on your phone and when you’re ready to continue your journey, you open the app and the screen shows you a choice - Resume navigation - you can tap No or Navigate. What part of this simple process do you want to eliminate?

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                                    @Nick-Carthew
                                    Beeeline does it the other way around: Resume dialog first, confirm second. Still the same amount of clicks to end a navigation (one less because the stop is on the main window instead of behind the ...) but one click less when you want to pause the navigation.
                                    I find it less annoying.

                                    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1erEEZwpurqkWfC-ZN-xj5qj8hiqrlbbq/view?usp=drivesdk

                                    in the video i show the resume first (play) followed by the end.

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