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  • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

    @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

    I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version.

    Just because you don’t use Android Auto doesn’t mean others shouldn’t. For those of us who do use it, this is still a real issue, it still is "a problem" !

    @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

    The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions

    Yes, it has—because many users have migrated to other apps (OsmAnd, Calimoto, Kurviger, TomTom), which work perfectly with Android Auto, without excuses.

    @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

    Instead I buy a fully rugged phone for €250 instead of some twice as expensive AA/CP device

    Thats not a sollution for me, and others, to buy and carry around another device when you can connect wirelessly to a factory built in display (Africa Twin) !!

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    #27

    @Adrian-Avram:

    • I do use Android Auto
    • I do understand that you want to use your built in AA/CP gadget (I do too, in my car)
    • I have been extensively testing that the past half year
    • I am quite confident that I helped devs more on this issue than you did
    • your claim abou migrating is BS
    • I am not the negative one here, you seem to be though

    Let's rest this pointless mud-throwing here, shall we?

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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      #28

      In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

      In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

      There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

        In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

        There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

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        #29

        @Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:

        In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

        Take for sure I'll test this.

        But, have you noted that this reply is someone we expect to have?

        This one, even in case not working for us,

        • explain how AA uses Location,
        • address a workaround for AA Aplications
        • and why, even if this workarond sounds "bad", must be taken into account.

        This kind of answers is what I expect from an Alpha Tester. Great!

        Regards!!!

        Lluis Arasanz

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others

          In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it

          There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not 😉

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          @Con-Hennekens Yes sir!! Now that's more like it!!! This is what I call trying to provide solutions and making valuable contributions. Bravo. I'll try it this afternoon. I have a trip of just over an hour and I'll be able to run several tests. I'll let you know the results.

          Thanks again.

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            #31

            Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

            I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

              I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

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              @Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!

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              • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

                @Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!

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                #33

                @b0hd1 said in Problema Car play:

                So we're all in the same boat!

                We certainly are! 😉

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                  #34

                  Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. I’ve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didn’t encounter any issues.

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                  • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                    Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. I’ve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didn’t encounter any issues.

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                    #35

                    @Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.

                      I am curious to the outcome of your testing.

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                      #36

                      @Con-Hennekens It didn't work. It keeps freezing. 😑 https://youtu.be/4SKGopQtn94?si=XQuD7SNHonuQv_rq

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                      • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

                        @Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...

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                        @b0hd1 I don’t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. I’ll then try to reproduce the issue.
                        I’m unable to play the video you posted...

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                        • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                          @b0hd1 I don’t quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. I’ll then try to reproduce the issue.
                          I’m unable to play the video you posted...

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                          @Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
                          For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
                          Please @Corjan-Meijerink

                          Regards

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