Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?)
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In theory I agree, in practice I don't trust the HERE traffic info anyway...
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Agreed… but better than nothing
A few years ago, when I was still using my Zumo without a data connection, I ended up in a massive traffic jam and complete road closure on the highway near Stuttgart. It caused about one to two hours of extra travel time.
We were riding in small groups, and some of the other groups did have access to live traffic information, including a few Garmin (Here) users. They were able to take a good alternative route and had far less delay as a result.
That was the moment I started using traffic information on highways. Ever since then, I have even trusted HERE for that purpose
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Agreed… but better than nothing
A few years ago, when I was still using my Zumo without a data connection, I ended up in a massive traffic jam and complete road closure on the highway near Stuttgart. It caused about one to two hours of extra travel time.
We were riding in small groups, and some of the other groups did have access to live traffic information, including a few Garmin (Here) users. They were able to take a good alternative route and had far less delay as a result.
That was the moment I started using traffic information on highways. Ever since then, I have even trusted HERE for that purpose
@CD130, I understand. I am usually not into guesswork, but I assume that using traffic info in a calculation is a feature of online calculations. I doubt that traffic info can be "downloaded" for use in offline calculations. But only @Corjan-Meijerink can definitely answer this. Please mind that offline maps are used, even when navigating online. So in practice I don't think much gain in data saving can be gotten from a "hybrid" solution like you proposed.
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@CD130, I understand. I am usually not into guesswork, but I assume that using traffic info in a calculation is a feature of online calculations. I doubt that traffic info can be "downloaded" for use in offline calculations. But only @Corjan-Meijerink can definitely answer this. Please mind that offline maps are used, even when navigating online. So in practice I don't think much gain in data saving can be gotten from a "hybrid" solution like you proposed.
@Con-Hennekens is data saving still an issue with the current tariff plans of the providers? If I speak for myself, it’s not.
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@CD130, I understand. I am usually not into guesswork, but I assume that using traffic info in a calculation is a feature of online calculations. I doubt that traffic info can be "downloaded" for use in offline calculations. But only @Corjan-Meijerink can definitely answer this. Please mind that offline maps are used, even when navigating online. So in practice I don't think much gain in data saving can be gotten from a "hybrid" solution like you proposed.
@Con-Hennekens Thanks for your reply! Data usage isn’t really the issue for me personally. My main wish is to have traffic information (when a data connection is available) combined with offline recalculation near country borders or in areas without coverage. Ideally, this would all happen automatically, without having to dive deep into the menu to switch between online and offline modes.
I hope that makes sense, but please let me know if it’s not clear
I can imagine this might be quite a challenge for the developers, but I still wanted to share the idea here.The adventure starts where the plans end | READY TO >> RACE 🧡
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@Con-Hennekens Thanks for your reply! Data usage isn’t really the issue for me personally. My main wish is to have traffic information (when a data connection is available) combined with offline recalculation near country borders or in areas without coverage. Ideally, this would all happen automatically, without having to dive deep into the menu to switch between online and offline modes.
I hope that makes sense, but please let me know if it’s not clear
I can imagine this might be quite a challenge for the developers, but I still wanted to share the idea here.@CD130 said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
My main wish is to have traffic information (when a data connection is available) combined with offline recalculation near country borders or in areas without coverage.
I think you will be satisfied with the new version 5 when it comes out
@Rob-Verhoeff said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
is data saving still an issue with the current tariff plans of the providers?
We in the EU, probably yes, but the app is used worldwide
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@CD130 said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
My main wish is to have traffic information (when a data connection is available) combined with offline recalculation near country borders or in areas without coverage.
I think you will be satisfied with the new version 5 when it comes out
@Rob-Verhoeff said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
is data saving still an issue with the current tariff plans of the providers?
We in the EU, probably yes, but the app is used worldwide
@Con-Hennekens said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
We in the EU, probably yes, but the app is used worldwide
Good point, but is separate from my suggestion
I'm curious if and how version 5.0 works better around my suggestion 
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@CD130 said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
My main wish is to have traffic information (when a data connection is available) combined with offline recalculation near country borders or in areas without coverage.
I think you will be satisfied with the new version 5 when it comes out
@Rob-Verhoeff said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
is data saving still an issue with the current tariff plans of the providers?
We in the EU, probably yes, but the app is used worldwide
@Con-Hennekens said in Suggestion: Combining offline use with traffic information (hybrid mode?):
We in the EU, probably yes, but the app is used worldwide
I don't think worldwide
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@Con-Hennekens is data saving still an issue with the current tariff plans of the providers? If I speak for myself, it’s not.
@Rob-Verhoeff
It is not only the tariff plans but also connection losses (typical in rural Germany). This can cause issues also.(I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)
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@Rob-Verhoeff
It is not only the tariff plans but also connection losses (typical in rural Germany). This can cause issues also.@M.-Schrijver When I’m in areas with weak or no data coverage, I’m most likely driving a beautiful route. Whether traffic information is available or not doesn’t matter to me one bit at that moment. I want to drive that route as planned. Any issues I encounter along the way, I deal with on the spot. When I’m driving from A to B, I’m most likely on my way to that beautiful route and I use Waze for navigation. Even abroad, that app has never let me down on the main roads. Switching between apps is of little importance to me — as far as I’m concerned, Waze is still unmatched in that regard. I know it’s a bit like swearing in church…
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I'm also very fond of a hybrid modus. Basic navigation always on the offline maps. Combined with the online posibilities along the way where needed or useful.
Just like the most of us, i like to ride the route just as i made it.
But what i also like. Automatic altering the route by the navigition because a stretch of road is not usable/blocked. This means. Just keep on riding and not fiddeling on my screen to look for a re-route.I also agree with @Con-Hennekens that the Here traffic info doesn't seems to be that good that is really useful for i.e automatic re-routing.
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