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Route differences since new update!

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  • stuart marrittundefined Offline
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    I have have offline maps downloaded but try not to use them if at all possible

    If I have a signal I am always using online maps

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      @Con-Hennekens said in Route differences since new update!:

      The origin of that is because the first one is calculated on the OSM map

      Nopes! Fastest route is always calculated by HERE. The route options displayed before starting the navigation (where you see 2 options) should always show the generated route as first option.

      This can be explained by two scenarios: either a mismatch between some HERE services due to traffic or something like that. You having enabled offline navigation.

      @Nomko-Nomden I respect your choice to disable recalculations but that is not relevant at all. We generally recommend it being turned on. I would appreciate you not pushing this setting on other users especially when unrelated 🙂

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      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Route differences since new update!:

      Nopes! Fastest route is always calculated by HERE.

      Okay! So calculated by HERE, presented on a OSM map?
      I stand corrected 😉

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • stuart marrittundefined stuart marritt

        I have have offline maps downloaded but try not to use them if at all possible

        If I have a signal I am always using online maps

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        Con Hennekens
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        @stuart-marritt said in Route differences since new update!:

        If I have a signal I am always using online maps

        If you have offline maps, they will be used whether you have signal or not.
        It is only the calculation of routes that is done online, if you did not enable offline routing explicitly.
        Why would you not want to use offline maps If you have them?

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • stuart marrittundefined stuart marritt

          I was out at the weekend and had no plan

          We popped for breakfast up the road then picked a place to go to and viewed the route before hitting navigate and thought thats not a bad route I will go for that.

          Here is the route
          Screenshot_20250629_105851.jpg

          Upon selecting the route it now gives me two options for two different routes that are nowhere near the same as the one that I had decided to go for?

          See screenshots

          Screenshot_20250629_105915.jpg

          Screenshot_20250629_105920.jpg

          How come routes are so different? and why am I getting options instead of the route that I had already chose to ride?

          Is this a new bug since the update to the scenic route?

          Thanks
          Stu

          Brian McGundefined Online
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          Brian McG
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          @stuart-marritt trying to simulate/re-create your route/situation I get the following
          3be7ec7e-834f-483f-a5fa-7ced3aabbd7d-image.png
          so I am seeing all 3 of your options
          with the choice to choose routes of 55minutes (your prefered route) & 2 others of 1 hour each

          to me appears for some reason you dont get to see or select all the options, yur choice is presented in a different manner/format
          what device are you using to navigate & what version of mra do you have?

          BlackView BV7100, Android 12
          Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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          • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

            @stuart-marritt trying to simulate/re-create your route/situation I get the following
            3be7ec7e-834f-483f-a5fa-7ced3aabbd7d-image.png
            so I am seeing all 3 of your options
            with the choice to choose routes of 55minutes (your prefered route) & 2 others of 1 hour each

            to me appears for some reason you dont get to see or select all the options, yur choice is presented in a different manner/format
            what device are you using to navigate & what version of mra do you have?

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            @Brian-McG

            That's what I would expect but as per the screen shot it's not what I got!

            I am using a Samsung s20 fe and I always have the latest version installed

            I always check the night before for any updates

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            • stuart marrittundefined stuart marritt

              @Brian-McG

              That's what I would expect but as per the screen shot it's not what I got!

              I am using a Samsung s20 fe and I always have the latest version installed

              I always check the night before for any updates

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              Brian McG
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              Hi @stuart-marritt
              if you now just choose an arbitary destination 30-40 miles from your current location & start navigating the route, what do your options look like, can you screenshot the choices given?

              BlackView BV7100, Android 12
              Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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              • stuart marrittundefined Offline
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                #14

                I have just picked the same end point as I had the issue on but I am at my home so is a different start location but it now gives me 3 routes

                Screenshot_20250704_165508.jpg

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                  Brian McG
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                  #15

                  in original screenshots it looked like your phone was in landscape mode
                  latest is in portrait mode
                  it is a longshot but somehow somwhere it looks like the original graphic choice screen had a glitch/error & only showed the 2 choices & not your optimal first choice

                  BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                  Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                  • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                    in original screenshots it looked like your phone was in landscape mode
                    latest is in portrait mode
                    it is a longshot but somehow somwhere it looks like the original graphic choice screen had a glitch/error & only showed the 2 choices & not your optimal first choice

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                    #16

                    @Brian-McG for reference here is the same in landscape

                    Although I took the original in landscape it was doing the same in portrait too.

                    757fe8db-a6ea-4427-86be-5c3415c267a1-1_all_18342.jpg

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                    • Brian McGundefined Online
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                      Brian McG
                      wrote last edited by Brian McG
                      #17

                      sorry I have no idea how the choice screen can glitch to show only 2 options instead of 3
                      I will leave that question/answer to someone with a bit more knowledge
                      best of luck

                      BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                      Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                        Works as expected so to see.
                        My reasoning before would be correct then it being a one time thing due to a mistiming at HERE calculations.

                        The orientation has no effect, reloading does as it will recalculate yielding 1, 2 or 3 routes again based on the moment. Usually quite consistent.

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          Works as expected so to see.
                          My reasoning before would be correct then it being a one time thing due to a mistiming at HERE calculations.

                          The orientation has no effect, reloading does as it will recalculate yielding 1, 2 or 3 routes again based on the moment. Usually quite consistent.

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                          @Corjan-Meijerink Yes looks as though it was a one time thing!

                          I will keep an eye on it and report back if it happens again

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                            Just want to bring this back up again!

                            Last night I was now no longer get the 3 route options and clicking on the different levels of windyness was showing me almost the same routes!

                            Also it was trying to keep me on the fast straight roads which is the ones I was trying to avoid no matter what settings I used

                            Is there some issues with the planner/scenic route when trying to do point A to Point B?

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                              When planning my routes on the computer, it often happens that Here® simply refuses to take a certain road.
                              This has often irritated or annoyed me.
                              The reason is almost always that part of the route is marked as closed or similar in Here. Unfortunately, this can only be seen when zooming in significantly and when the traffic layer is active.
                              Therefore, turning off traffic-aware routing would be an option when driving. However, this is not possible when planning, as the route is simply not feasible.
                              RT

                              Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

                              Stammtisch Themen Anmeldung

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                              • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

                                When planning my routes on the computer, it often happens that Here® simply refuses to take a certain road.
                                This has often irritated or annoyed me.
                                The reason is almost always that part of the route is marked as closed or similar in Here. Unfortunately, this can only be seen when zooming in significantly and when the traffic layer is active.
                                Therefore, turning off traffic-aware routing would be an option when driving. However, this is not possible when planning, as the route is simply not feasible.
                                RT

                                Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

                                Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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                                Marinus van Deudekom
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                                @Rainer-Treichel Hi Rainer. This has nothing to do with the update. Its simply how planning works. You're right with the conclusion that turning on the traffic layer gives you insite. Of you're shure that the obstruction is not a problem you can solve that with the Offroad Jeep sign so that piece will be ignored

                                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                  Yo are right, nothing to do with the update.
                                  RT

                                  Stammtisch Themen Anmeldung

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