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    I was out at the weekend and had no plan

    We popped for breakfast up the road then picked a place to go to and viewed the route before hitting navigate and thought thats not a bad route I will go for that.

    Here is the route
    Screenshot_20250629_105851.jpg

    Upon selecting the route it now gives me two options for two different routes that are nowhere near the same as the one that I had decided to go for?

    See screenshots

    Screenshot_20250629_105915.jpg

    Screenshot_20250629_105920.jpg

    How come routes are so different? and why am I getting options instead of the route that I had already chose to ride?

    Is this a new bug since the update to the scenic route?

    Thanks
    Stu

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      @stuart-marritt Do you have recalculation turned on?If so, please turn that off. That will prevent a lot of unwanted issue's as well.

      Secondly, can you post a link to that route? Maybe we can see something you might overlooked.

      Cheers!

      | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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      • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

        @stuart-marritt Do you have recalculation turned on?If so, please turn that off. That will prevent a lot of unwanted issue's as well.

        Secondly, can you post a link to that route? Maybe we can see something you might overlooked.

        Cheers!

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        @Nomko-Nomden how will turning recalculation off help this situation?

        I thought recalculation was for if you go off route?

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          @Nomko-Nomden how will turning recalculation off help this situation?

          I thought recalculation was for if you go off route?

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          @stuart-marritt said in Route differences since new update!:

          @Nomko-Nomden how will turning recalculation off help this situation?

          I thought recalculation was for if you go off route?

          There's a lot of discussions about recalculation having it turned on or off. If you plotted a route and you want to stick with it, turn it off. Also if you used a minimum of waypoints to plot your route, turn it off.

          Recalculation is not as much for going off route, but as general a "automated" assistance to get to your destination as quick as possible. And with a short route if possible. It should take you to the nearest waypoint, but there is significant number of users who has been taken either to the starting point or to the end point skipping the rest of the route.

          I have the experience that have it turned off does a better job than have it turned on. Also, turning on recalculation consumes a lot of resources of your mobile phone making it freeze or have MRA crash (which is experienced by a lot users up till now).

          If you don't care about the plotted route and you want to deviate from the route, have it turned on.

          That's why i also asked you to provide a link to that route so we can check and provide you with a better solution.

          | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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            @stuart-marritt said in Route differences since new update!:

            @Nomko-Nomden how will turning recalculation off help this situation?

            I thought recalculation was for if you go off route?

            There's a lot of discussions about recalculation having it turned on or off. If you plotted a route and you want to stick with it, turn it off. Also if you used a minimum of waypoints to plot your route, turn it off.

            Recalculation is not as much for going off route, but as general a "automated" assistance to get to your destination as quick as possible. And with a short route if possible. It should take you to the nearest waypoint, but there is significant number of users who has been taken either to the starting point or to the end point skipping the rest of the route.

            I have the experience that have it turned off does a better job than have it turned on. Also, turning on recalculation consumes a lot of resources of your mobile phone making it freeze or have MRA crash (which is experienced by a lot users up till now).

            If you don't care about the plotted route and you want to deviate from the route, have it turned on.

            That's why i also asked you to provide a link to that route so we can check and provide you with a better solution.

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            @Nomko-Nomden I can't send a link as it was an A to B route and not a saved one unfortunately

            I have never experienced any issues with recalculations or freezing on mine though but I will give it a try and see how it goes

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            • stuart marrittundefined stuart marritt

              I was out at the weekend and had no plan

              We popped for breakfast up the road then picked a place to go to and viewed the route before hitting navigate and thought thats not a bad route I will go for that.

              Here is the route
              Screenshot_20250629_105851.jpg

              Upon selecting the route it now gives me two options for two different routes that are nowhere near the same as the one that I had decided to go for?

              See screenshots

              Screenshot_20250629_105915.jpg

              Screenshot_20250629_105920.jpg

              How come routes are so different? and why am I getting options instead of the route that I had already chose to ride?

              Is this a new bug since the update to the scenic route?

              Thanks
              Stu

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              Con Hennekens
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              @stuart-marritt, my belief is that whenever you choose a direct route (straight line and not any of the curvy options) the route should load right away indeed, without the new suggestions. Usually though one of the suggestions (there may be up to three) will be quite similar, which is indeed not in your case. The origin of that is because the first one is calculated on the OSM map, the next one is calculated within the navigation module on the HERE map. This is a hard to understand situation that will be mitigated somewhere in the future.

              BTW: Obviously navigating with recalculation enabled is perfectly fine. I can understand it that some individuals rather want to have it disabled, but it is a bit pity that it gets advised all over the place.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @stuart-marritt, my belief is that whenever you choose a direct route (straight line and not any of the curvy options) the route should load right away indeed, without the new suggestions. Usually though one of the suggestions (there may be up to three) will be quite similar, which is indeed not in your case. The origin of that is because the first one is calculated on the OSM map, the next one is calculated within the navigation module on the HERE map. This is a hard to understand situation that will be mitigated somewhere in the future.

                BTW: Obviously navigating with recalculation enabled is perfectly fine. I can understand it that some individuals rather want to have it disabled, but it is a bit pity that it gets advised all over the place.

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                @Con-Hennekens said in Route differences since new update!:

                The origin of that is because the first one is calculated on the OSM map

                Nopes! Fastest route is always calculated by HERE. The route options displayed before starting the navigation (where you see 2 options) should always show the generated route as first option.

                This can be explained by two scenarios: either a mismatch between some HERE services due to traffic or something like that. You having enabled offline navigation.

                @Nomko-Nomden I respect your choice to disable recalculations but that is not relevant at all. We generally recommend it being turned on. I would appreciate you not pushing this setting on other users especially when unrelated 🙂

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                  I have have offline maps downloaded but try not to use them if at all possible

                  If I have a signal I am always using online maps

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in Route differences since new update!:

                    The origin of that is because the first one is calculated on the OSM map

                    Nopes! Fastest route is always calculated by HERE. The route options displayed before starting the navigation (where you see 2 options) should always show the generated route as first option.

                    This can be explained by two scenarios: either a mismatch between some HERE services due to traffic or something like that. You having enabled offline navigation.

                    @Nomko-Nomden I respect your choice to disable recalculations but that is not relevant at all. We generally recommend it being turned on. I would appreciate you not pushing this setting on other users especially when unrelated 🙂

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                    @Corjan-Meijerink said in Route differences since new update!:

                    Nopes! Fastest route is always calculated by HERE.

                    Okay! So calculated by HERE, presented on a OSM map?
                    I stand corrected 😉

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • stuart marrittundefined stuart marritt

                      I have have offline maps downloaded but try not to use them if at all possible

                      If I have a signal I am always using online maps

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                      @stuart-marritt said in Route differences since new update!:

                      If I have a signal I am always using online maps

                      If you have offline maps, they will be used whether you have signal or not.
                      It is only the calculation of routes that is done online, if you did not enable offline routing explicitly.
                      Why would you not want to use offline maps If you have them?

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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