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  • Tony 13undefined Offline
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    Tony 13
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    #11

    that's easy 😊

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    • Rajpundefined Rajp

      That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

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      Con Hennekens
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      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

      That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

      Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

        That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

        Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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        wrote on last edited by Rajp
        #13

        @Con-Hennekens I've added shaping point 2, just after this you can see the route (black line) switching lanes to the express lane - and it's not free for motorcycles

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

          That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

          Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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          #14

          @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

          https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

          So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

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          • Rajpundefined Rajp

            @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

            https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

            So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

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            @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

            432088ff-a5c3-4aaf-b66e-9ae3e66c6702-image.png

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

              432088ff-a5c3-4aaf-b66e-9ae3e66c6702-image.png

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              #16

              @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

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              • Rajpundefined Rajp

                @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
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                #17

                @Rajp, exactly my point 😉

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  #18

                  It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                  The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                    The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                    Marinus van Deudekom
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                    #19

                    @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                    I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                    in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                      I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                      in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

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                      #20

                      Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                      Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                      Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                      • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                        Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                        Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                        Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                        Marinus van Deudekom
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        @Herko-ter-Horst To be clear, the motorcycle profile 🙂

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                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                        • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                          Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                          Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                          Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                          @Herko-ter-Horst This discussion refers to the profile Motorcycle!

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