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  • Tony 13 Offline
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    Tony 13
    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    I thought once a route was created you could not change its profile?
    I have a lot of "motorcycle" routes and would prefer to change dome of them to "car"

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    • Tony 13 Tony 13

      I thought once a route was created you could not change its profile?
      I have a lot of "motorcycle" routes and would prefer to change dome of them to "car"

      Leike Lodiers Offline
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      Leike Lodiers
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @Tony-13 Open route and on the leftside select the hamburger menu

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      • Tony 13 Offline
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        #11

        that's easy 😊

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        • Rajp Rajp

          That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

          Con Hennekens Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

          That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

          Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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          • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

            @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

            That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

            Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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            Rajp
            wrote on last edited by Rajp
            #13

            @Con-Hennekens I've added shaping point 2, just after this you can see the route (black line) switching lanes to the express lane - and it's not free for motorcycles

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            • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

              @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

              That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

              Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

              https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

              So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

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              • Rajp Rajp

                @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

                https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

                So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

                Con Hennekens Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

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                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                  @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

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                  #16

                  @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

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                  • Rajp Rajp

                    @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

                    Con Hennekens Offline
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                    Con Hennekens
                    Alpha tester
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    @Rajp, exactly my point 😉

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                    • Corjan Meijerink Online
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                      Corjan Meijerink
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                      #18

                      It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                      The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                        It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                        The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                        Marinus van Deudekom
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                        wrote on last edited by Marinus van Deudekom
                        #19

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                        I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                        in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

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                        • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                          I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                          in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

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                          #20

                          Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                          Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                          Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                          • Herko ter Horst Herko ter Horst

                            Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                            Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                            Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                            Marinus van Deudekom
                            RouteXpert
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            @Herko-ter-Horst To be clear, the motorcycle profile 🙂

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                            • Herko ter Horst Herko ter Horst

                              Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                              Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                              Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                              #22

                              @Herko-ter-Horst This discussion refers to the profile Motorcycle!

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