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  • Rajpundefined Rajp

    That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

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    Stanisław
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    @Rajp In general this avoid toll roads option does work with motorcycle profile, I have never had any problem with it. Maybe there is some problem with this info on the map.

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    • Rajpundefined Rajp

      That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

      Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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      Marinus van Deudekom
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      @Rajp that’s why I never use the bike profile. As far as I’M Concerned the little advantages of using the bike profile do not add up for the things that are not possible. That by the way is choice of Here not by MRA. So for ME it has little or no use and I’m staying with the car profile.
      As a RouteXpert for us it’s mandatory so everyone can use our routes

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      Honda Silverwing GL 650
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      • Rajpundefined Rajp

        Hi, I’m planning a route with avoid toll roads set, however MRA is still routing me onto the express way which is a toll road? Screenshot attached. Note: there are no way points or shaping points on the express way forcing that route.

        IMG_0036.jpeg

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        @Rajp some extra shaping points on the expressway will help you with that problem.

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        • Tony 13undefined Online
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          Tony 13
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          I thought once a route was created you could not change its profile?
          I have a lot of "motorcycle" routes and would prefer to change dome of them to "car"

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          • Tony 13undefined Tony 13

            I thought once a route was created you could not change its profile?
            I have a lot of "motorcycle" routes and would prefer to change dome of them to "car"

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            #10

            @Tony-13 Open route and on the leftside select the hamburger menu

            c85fd939-8b53-49ff-9730-2f52b78bd33f-image.png

            Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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            • Tony 13undefined Online
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              Tony 13
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              #11

              that's easy 😊

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              • Rajpundefined Rajp

                That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

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                wrote on last edited by
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                @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

                That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

                Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

                  That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

                  Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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                  wrote on last edited by Rajp
                  #13

                  @Con-Hennekens I've added shaping point 2, just after this you can see the route (black line) switching lanes to the express lane - and it's not free for motorcycles

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Rajp said in Route unexpectedly on toll roads:

                    That’s a bit disconcerting, is there a published list of features not supported by the bike profile?

                    Only thing is that there is no "shortest route" optimization for the motorbike profile. Can it be that the toll on that road is not applicable to motorbikes? or at least HERE THINKS it is? I cannot find that location in your route, so I cannot check. You could place a waypoint just before when this happens and tell us its number.

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                    @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

                    So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

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                    • Rajpundefined Rajp

                      @Con-Hennekens Interestingly I created a copy of the route, and changed the navigation type to Car, and in that route it does NOT take me onto the express lane.

                      https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10841161?mode=share

                      So perhaps Car is the best option to use for all route planning

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                      @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

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                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Rajp, I can't really find a clue. https://mapcreator.here.com/navlink:989811321/?l=32.9299,-117.1133,18,autoselect does not seem to reveal toll information. And the website about this road is seemingly blocked for foreigners wanting to plan a USA trip.

                        432088ff-a5c3-4aaf-b66e-9ae3e66c6702-image.png

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                        @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

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                        • Rajpundefined Rajp

                          @Con-Hennekens you probably have to pay import tariffs to view that site as a foreigner 😂

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                          #17

                          @Rajp, exactly my point 😉

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                            The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                              It is absolutely not true that the motorcycle is unstable as said by @Marinus-van-Deudekom.

                              The only difference is that motorcycle has no shortest route option due to limitations at HERE. If a motorcycle takes a toll road where not expected (and allowed) this is just a mapping error which can be reported here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                              Marinus van Deudekom
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                              wrote on last edited by Marinus van Deudekom
                              #19

                              @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                              I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                              in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

                              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                              Honda Silverwing GL 650
                              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                              Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                              Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                @Corjan-Meijerink Sorry Corjan
                                I did not state that the bike profile is unstable.
                                in this case the difference between the bike and car profile results in the routing by tollway. if you choose the car profile the route goes as wanted, in this case

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                                Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                                Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                                Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                                • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                                  Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                                  Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                                  Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

                                  Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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                                  Marinus van Deudekom
                                  Valued contributor
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @Herko-ter-Horst To be clear, the motorcycle profile 🙂

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                                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                  Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                  Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                                    Just to make sure people aren't talking about different things:

                                    Are we talking about the 'bicycle' or the 'motorcycle' profile?

                                    Both could be referred to as 'bike', depending on where you're from.

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                                    @Herko-ter-Horst This discussion refers to the profile Motorcycle!

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