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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    @Jan-Smerke, What @Marinus-van-Deudekom says is pretty accurate. In the planning stage I often delete waypoints to see the impact of it on the route. If it changes, press the Oopsy button (CTLR-Z). If it doesn't the WP was unnecessary. Caution though when sharing your route with people on other platforms. Use the compare tool (Gold) in that case.

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    @Con-Hennekens Thanks Con. That makes sense. I was curious as to the approach of the more experienced MRA route planners.
    I did a tour a few weeks ago around Cumbria, Yorkshire, Northumberland and then south to Lincolnshire. They were fairly complicated routes over 4 days on back roads taking in scenic areas and a number of natural sites to see. Routes were sent to my Nav 5. Over about 1000 miles it worked out pretty good but I had one or two glitches due to the myriad of country lanes giving the Garmin the chance to go freestyle. That led me to think I should have put in a few more shaping points.
    I now have the set up to mount my phone (in a case) on the bike. I think that will possibly be the way to go in the future.
    As I am nosey it would be interesting (for me at least) to learn how people use their MRA ie via phone, Nav device (ie Garmin or TomTom) or linked to a screen (ie Chigee) via AA/ACP.

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    • Jan Smerkeundefined Jan Smerke

      @Con-Hennekens Thanks Con. That makes sense. I was curious as to the approach of the more experienced MRA route planners.
      I did a tour a few weeks ago around Cumbria, Yorkshire, Northumberland and then south to Lincolnshire. They were fairly complicated routes over 4 days on back roads taking in scenic areas and a number of natural sites to see. Routes were sent to my Nav 5. Over about 1000 miles it worked out pretty good but I had one or two glitches due to the myriad of country lanes giving the Garmin the chance to go freestyle. That led me to think I should have put in a few more shaping points.
      I now have the set up to mount my phone (in a case) on the bike. I think that will possibly be the way to go in the future.
      As I am nosey it would be interesting (for me at least) to learn how people use their MRA ie via phone, Nav device (ie Garmin or TomTom) or linked to a screen (ie Chigee) via AA/ACP.

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      @Jan-Smerke I use an Samsung S20 on a Quadlock mount with vibration dampner and wired wireless charger. The phone can handle rain and the new screen lock option helps preventing rain from making the phone do funny things. I would not use AA or CP. I don't think they solve anything and there are far too many problems being reported.

      2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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      • Jan Smerkeundefined Jan Smerke

        @Con-Hennekens Thanks Con. That makes sense. I was curious as to the approach of the more experienced MRA route planners.
        I did a tour a few weeks ago around Cumbria, Yorkshire, Northumberland and then south to Lincolnshire. They were fairly complicated routes over 4 days on back roads taking in scenic areas and a number of natural sites to see. Routes were sent to my Nav 5. Over about 1000 miles it worked out pretty good but I had one or two glitches due to the myriad of country lanes giving the Garmin the chance to go freestyle. That led me to think I should have put in a few more shaping points.
        I now have the set up to mount my phone (in a case) on the bike. I think that will possibly be the way to go in the future.
        As I am nosey it would be interesting (for me at least) to learn how people use their MRA ie via phone, Nav device (ie Garmin or TomTom) or linked to a screen (ie Chigee) via AA/ACP.

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        @Jan-Smerke, I agree with @RetiredWingMan on this. I call it "an extra layer of complexity" and I find it too restrictive. For not much more € you can get a Rugged Android phone and dedicate that for navigation.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Jan-Smerke, I agree with @RetiredWingMan on this. I call it "an extra layer of complexity" and I find it too restrictive. For not much more € you can get a Rugged Android phone and dedicate that for navigation.

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          @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point maximum:

          I call it "an extra layer of complexity"

          I agree with you, but those Chigee devices are becoming more and more attractive! There's already one for my K1600, and it will probably fit seamlessly onto the connection for my BMW Navigator V (Garmin), which is already there and can be operated via the wonder wheel. That would make me really happy!

          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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          • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

            @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point maximum:

            I call it "an extra layer of complexity"

            I agree with you, but those Chigee devices are becoming more and more attractive! There's already one for my K1600, and it will probably fit seamlessly onto the connection for my BMW Navigator V (Garmin), which is already there and can be operated via the wonder wheel. That would make me really happy!

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            @Rob-Verhoeff I have already bought said Chigee device - to go with all my other nav options!
            TBH, I am not sure I did the right thing. I have been a bit naïve. I thought the Chigee would simply replicate the phone screen. It does not. There is less functionality and control with MRA as it appears on the Chigee. Also, the connectivity between the 2 is not always there so sometimes I wait patiently for a reconnect and sometimes I reconnect manually. I have wondered if I am doing something wrong but I see quite a few others reporting the same.
            Hence, I am now leaning to using MRA as it appears on my phone. Not sure my phone was necessarily intended for this sort of work so I rather agree that the best option may be to use a rugged phone as a dedicated sat nav device.

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            • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

              @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point maximum:

              I call it "an extra layer of complexity"

              I agree with you, but those Chigee devices are becoming more and more attractive! There's already one for my K1600, and it will probably fit seamlessly onto the connection for my BMW Navigator V (Garmin), which is already there and can be operated via the wonder wheel. That would make me really happy!

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              @Rob-Verhoeff, yes of course, I understand your wish to be able to use the BMW wonder wheel 😉 I think that is a big selling point for those devices!

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                @Con-Hennekens said in Shaping point maximum:

                I call it "an extra layer of complexity"

                I agree with you, but those Chigee devices are becoming more and more attractive! There's already one for my K1600, and it will probably fit seamlessly onto the connection for my BMW Navigator V (Garmin), which is already there and can be operated via the wonder wheel. That would make me really happy!

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                @Rob-Verhoeff Oh yes ... by the way Rob, I am using the dedicated Chigee AIO 5 Play mounted on my GS satnav cradle.

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                • Jan Smerkeundefined Jan Smerke

                  @Rob-Verhoeff I have already bought said Chigee device - to go with all my other nav options!
                  TBH, I am not sure I did the right thing. I have been a bit naïve. I thought the Chigee would simply replicate the phone screen. It does not. There is less functionality and control with MRA as it appears on the Chigee. Also, the connectivity between the 2 is not always there so sometimes I wait patiently for a reconnect and sometimes I reconnect manually. I have wondered if I am doing something wrong but I see quite a few others reporting the same.
                  Hence, I am now leaning to using MRA as it appears on my phone. Not sure my phone was necessarily intended for this sort of work so I rather agree that the best option may be to use a rugged phone as a dedicated sat nav device.

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                  @Jan-Smerke said in Shaping point maximum:

                  There is less functionality and control with MRA as it appears on the Chigee.

                  That's correct! Google and Apple simply don't allow the phone screen to be mirrored exactly one-to-one. There are many functionalities that those giants don't permit you to use. MRA can't do anything about that; it's entirely due to the company policies of those two.

                  BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                  iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                  Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                    #15

                    I am experimenting with an Android Auto device. I appreciate the comments about it adding another layer of complexity. On the other hand, even on the device I have, a cheap (less than $150 US Weuaste that I got on Amazon), the screen is bright enough to use in daylight.

                    That has not been the case with the two ruggedized Android phones I have tried: a Kyocera and now a Doogee.

                    My experience is that I need a display of at least 1000 nits for the device to be useful in sunlight. My Pixel 6 pro (not ruggedized) has a display with 840 nits and it's just barely okay in the sun - but I have to take my sunglasses off to see it.

                    Many of the less expensive ruggedized phones I have found, including the Kyocera and the Doogee, have displays in the 500 nits range - okay for a cloudy day but not enough for sun. So I suggest looking for the screen brightness spec before buying, and if the spec is less than 1000 nits, don't buy.

                    Vinnie

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                    • Vincent Currenundefined Vincent Curren

                      I am experimenting with an Android Auto device. I appreciate the comments about it adding another layer of complexity. On the other hand, even on the device I have, a cheap (less than $150 US Weuaste that I got on Amazon), the screen is bright enough to use in daylight.

                      That has not been the case with the two ruggedized Android phones I have tried: a Kyocera and now a Doogee.

                      My experience is that I need a display of at least 1000 nits for the device to be useful in sunlight. My Pixel 6 pro (not ruggedized) has a display with 840 nits and it's just barely okay in the sun - but I have to take my sunglasses off to see it.

                      Many of the less expensive ruggedized phones I have found, including the Kyocera and the Doogee, have displays in the 500 nits range - okay for a cloudy day but not enough for sun. So I suggest looking for the screen brightness spec before buying, and if the spec is less than 1000 nits, don't buy.

                      Vinnie

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                      @Vincent-Curren, that is a very Valid remark indeed! I happen to own a CAT S52 that is said to have a max of 530 Nits. To avoid sun reflection I added a matte screen protector. That almost eliminates reflection, but lowers brightness too. Like you say it is barely enough. In certain conditions I need to move my head a bit to be able to see the course of the route. Also I 3D printed a visor, that helps a bit but still not ideal.

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                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @Vincent-Curren, that is a very Valid remark indeed! I happen to own a CAT S52 that is said to have a max of 530 Nits. To avoid sun reflection I added a matte screen protector. That almost eliminates reflection, but lowers brightness too. Like you say it is barely enough. In certain conditions I need to move my head a bit to be able to see the course of the route. Also I 3D printed a visor, that helps a bit but still not ideal.

                        932a4c3c-516c-47d2-9286-3a8561f9d7a9-image.png

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                        I think OLED screen should be the good option, I use LG V40 ThinQ and it is very clear even in full sun. Unfortunately I had problems with the GPS service - it stopped working for all applications started on the phone and it needs to be restarted. I never had it before, it seems that some applications are blocking it by accessing it in parallel - I think.

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                        • Stanisławundefined Stanisław

                          I think OLED screen should be the good option, I use LG V40 ThinQ and it is very clear even in full sun. Unfortunately I had problems with the GPS service - it stopped working for all applications started on the phone and it needs to be restarted. I never had it before, it seems that some applications are blocking it by accessing it in parallel - I think.

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                          @Stanisław that lg phone is only 660 nits and that wouldn't be enough for a real clear screen

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
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                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
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