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  • Parantapaundefined Parantapa

    Really great new functions. Also the different views for the maps. Now you can finally see the roads well with Here Map. The synchronisation is also great, but it would be an advantage if you could apply it to individual folders. I also have a lot of routes online, synchronising them all would be too much of a good thing ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    @Parantapa said in New update! (4.3.0) Project sync:

    synchronising them all would be too much of a good thing

    Just try it! It will only take 2 minutes or so, and after that, ONLY changes to existing routes, and new routes are synced!

    Manks bu'j te bange.

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      Hi,

      I am a big fan of MRA, both for the web and the app, I think the team does an amazing job.

      Today I noticed that with the new app version 4.3, the width of the lines was not reflected on Carplay: I was using both the app and carplay at the same time, and on the app the lines were wide (as I set the width line parameter to x1.25) but on Carplay they were thin, just as before the update.

      Is this a Carplay limitation or is this not implemented on Carplay version yet ?

      Ron

      iPhone 15 with iOS 17.6.1
      Carplay on BMW 430i
      Carplay on Innovv N1 Pro (moto)

      BMW 1250 RS '23
      BMW R Nine T '21 (sold)
      Garmin Zumo XT2 (sold)
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      • Ronny Schenkels 0undefined Ronny Schenkels 0

        Hi,

        I am a big fan of MRA, both for the web and the app, I think the team does an amazing job.

        Today I noticed that with the new app version 4.3, the width of the lines was not reflected on Carplay: I was using both the app and carplay at the same time, and on the app the lines were wide (as I set the width line parameter to x1.25) but on Carplay they were thin, just as before the update.

        Is this a Carplay limitation or is this not implemented on Carplay version yet ?

        Ron

        iPhone 15 with iOS 17.6.1
        Carplay on BMW 430i
        Carplay on Innovv N1 Pro (moto)

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        Corjan Meijerink
        administrator
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        @Ronny-Schenkels-0 Should work on CarPlay!
        Maybe it did not synchronise immediately. Probably it will work as expected when reconnecting to CarPlay again.

        Thanks for the kind words ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          @Ronny-Schenkels-0 Should work on CarPlay!
          Maybe it did not synchronise immediately. Probably it will work as expected when reconnecting to CarPlay again.

          Thanks for the kind words ๐Ÿ™‚

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          @Corjan-Meijerink :

          You automatically get a route from a foreign group whose member you are also synchronized with your own mobile phone so that it is also immediately available offline ...

          Currently, this does not seem to be offered:

          Two steps:

          • Open route in group

          • Download Route

          • Route then first start

          If no net and that happens in the mountains what is then?

          • App was accidentally stopped during a break

          • Route from download load / Start ?? Would be cumbersome

          For security for users in the group:

          • Do I really have to go cumbersomely through the route lab in the morning and "use" the route means copying ... so it is then synchronized for offline????

          We had the problems somehow in Slovenia.

          VG

          VG Hubert
          Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
          iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
          โ—๏ธMyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-Oneโ—๏ธ

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          • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

            @Corjan-Meijerink :

            You automatically get a route from a foreign group whose member you are also synchronized with your own mobile phone so that it is also immediately available offline ...

            Currently, this does not seem to be offered:

            Two steps:

            • Open route in group

            • Download Route

            • Route then first start

            If no net and that happens in the mountains what is then?

            • App was accidentally stopped during a break

            • Route from download load / Start ?? Would be cumbersome

            For security for users in the group:

            • Do I really have to go cumbersomely through the route lab in the morning and "use" the route means copying ... so it is then synchronized for offline????

            We had the problems somehow in Slovenia.

            VG

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            @Hubert-Thoring said in New update! (4.3.0) Project sync:

            If no net and that happens in the mountains what is then?

            If you go drive routes that are not in your own library, you need to add them to your downloads, just like with your own routes before the sync update. You can then start those routes from the downloads folder, just like it always was.

            Do I really have to go cumbersomely through the route lab in the morning and "use" the route means copying ... so it is then synchronized for offline????

            No, just add them to your downloads.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              @Corjan-Meijerink In the app you can now easily switch between your private routes/tracks and the routes/tracks of Friends, Groups and Events. What I donโ€™t like is that when you switch from routes to track or the other way around, you always go back to your private routes/tracks. For me it would be more logical if you can switch between routes/tracks in the same folder (Private, Froends, Groups or Events).

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                This update is really awesome, great job done!

                The new map styles and configurations look especially good, but sometimes I'd like to use the OSM map layer for planning. Are there any schedules for including the existing layers (OSM, TomTom, etc.) in the planner as well?

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                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                  This update is really awesome, great job done!

                  The new map styles and configurations look especially good, but sometimes I'd like to use the OSM map layer for planning. Are there any schedules for including the existing layers (OSM, TomTom, etc.) in the planner as well?

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                  @Martin-Wilcke Those are not expected ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  Thanks for the kind words!

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    @Martin-Wilcke Those are not expected ๐Ÿ˜‰
                    Thanks for the kind words!

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                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                    Are there any particular reasons for different map sets for browsing and planning? Or will the app finally end up with HERE maps only?

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                    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                      Are there any particular reasons for different map sets for browsing and planning? Or will the app finally end up with HERE maps only?

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                      @Martin-Wilcke the OSM and TomTom map are available in the web module (Gold abo only) but in the end for navigating you must convert such a route to the Here map because Next uses Here and Here only

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                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Martin-Wilcke the OSM and TomTom map are available in the web module (Gold abo only) but in the end for navigating you must convert such a route to the Here map because Next uses Here and Here only

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                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom
                        Yes, I know. However, my question is not about different routing engines but about different map layers.

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                          @Peter-Schiefer
                          Agreed.
                          But to clarify: I'm not comparing the web planner with the app planner. It's about the different map layer sets within the app.
                          Several map layers are available in "browse/view" mode, including OSM, HERE and TomTom.
                          In "edit/planning" mode ("MRA Routeplanner"), however, we have one map layer (HERE) with various style options: Vulf, Wong, Dart and a bunch of "edition" options (explore, topo, satellite, etc.)
                          I'd like to know if this will be harmonised and, if so, in which way.

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                          • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                            @Peter-Schiefer
                            Agreed.
                            But to clarify: I'm not comparing the web planner with the app planner. It's about the different map layer sets within the app.
                            Several map layers are available in "browse/view" mode, including OSM, HERE and TomTom.
                            In "edit/planning" mode ("MRA Routeplanner"), however, we have one map layer (HERE) with various style options: Vulf, Wong, Dart and a bunch of "edition" options (explore, topo, satellite, etc.)
                            I'd like to know if this will be harmonised and, if so, in which way.

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                            @Martin-Wilcke : My experience with this is, plan no matter with which map and at the very end HERE takes over when routing.

                            With too few route points, it is not the app that is surprised but the driver.

                            HERE is the machine base the rest is for better overview.

                            That's how I understood it.

                            It was noticed:

                            • HERE in the web planner

                            • HERE in the app

                            Somehow don't seem to be the same as that was just my impression, but can also be due to the now very many setting options ....

                            VG

                            VG Hubert
                            Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                            iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                            โ—๏ธMyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-Oneโ—๏ธ

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                              Waar dient dan nu de download map nog voor dan als we voortaan sync'n

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                              • marc van der heijdenundefined marc van der heijden

                                Waar dient dan nu de download map nog voor dan als we voortaan sync'n

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                                @marc-van-der-heijden voor routes of tracks die NIET gesynchroniseerd kunnen worden, te weten: routes van/uit:

                                • vrienden
                                • evenementen
                                • groepen

                                Deze routes zal je altijd รณf moeten overhalen naar je eigen account zodat ze wรฉl gesynchroniseerd kunnen worden รณf offline beschikbaar moeten maken. In beide gevallen is dit dus geenszins gesynchroniseerd en altijd handmatige actie. Je hebt dan dus ook nooit automatisch de laatste stand van de route indien de eigenaar van die route wijzigingen aanbrengt... Dit brengt dus ook meteen inzichtelijk hoe waanzin waardevol die sync functie dus eigenlijk wel niet is!

                                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                  @Peter-Schiefer
                                  Agreed.
                                  But to clarify: I'm not comparing the web planner with the app planner. It's about the different map layer sets within the app.
                                  Several map layers are available in "browse/view" mode, including OSM, HERE and TomTom.
                                  In "edit/planning" mode ("MRA Routeplanner"), however, we have one map layer (HERE) with various style options: Vulf, Wong, Dart and a bunch of "edition" options (explore, topo, satellite, etc.)
                                  I'd like to know if this will be harmonised and, if so, in which way.

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                                  @Martin-Wilcke said in New update! (4.3.0) Project sync:

                                  Several map layers are available in "browse/view" mode, including OSM, HERE and TomTom.
                                  In "edit/planning" mode ("MRA Routeplanner"), however, we have one map layer (HERE) with various style options: Vulf, Wong, Dart and a bunch of "edition" options (explore, topo, satellite, etc.)
                                  I'd like to know if this will be harmonised and, if so, in which way.

                                  Works is being done on a new completely new and enhanced webplanner. Currently the app-planner and the web-planner are written on different development platforms with different features. I think it would be logical that the new web-planner will be written on the same platform as the app, but I really don't know that. Complicating factor in that is that due to licensing restrictions not everything can be shared cross platform. Hence the TomTom and OSM maps are not available in the app-planner. Future will tell, but there certainly is no wish to keep thing separate ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                    @Martin-Wilcke : My experience with this is, plan no matter with which map and at the very end HERE takes over when routing.

                                    With too few route points, it is not the app that is surprised but the driver.

                                    HERE is the machine base the rest is for better overview.

                                    That's how I understood it.

                                    It was noticed:

                                    • HERE in the web planner

                                    • HERE in the app

                                    Somehow don't seem to be the same as that was just my impression, but can also be due to the now very many setting options ....

                                    VG

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                                    @Hubert-Thoring
                                    Hubert,
                                    That sounds like a good strategy - but it is out of the scope of my question. Sorry for the confusion; I will try to clear it up.

                                    The latest upgrade introduced a beautiful new map layer to the app. It is based on HERE, can be configured with three different "colour schemes" (Vulf, Wong, Dart) and six "editions" (Explore, Simplistic, Topo, etc.) and looks like this:
                                    new.jpg
                                    This new map layer, however, is available only for planning/editing routes with the "MRA Routeplanner".

                                    When opening a route for viewing/browsing, on the other hand, we still have the traditional maps where I can pick one out of twelve (MyRoute-app Default, MyRoute-app Street, MyRoute-App Outdoor, HERE, TomTom). Looks like this:
                                    old.jpg

                                    So, we have entirely different maps within the myRoute-app for various purposes. That is quite unusual; all other planning apps I know of use identical map(s) throughout the app.

                                    My question is: Will the "traditional" and "new" maps be harmonised within the myRoute app, or are different maps for separate tasks part of a design concept?

                                    (And to cover this as well: Yes, we still have one HERE "map" in terms of a "routing engine" that is responsible for calculating a route - but this is a different story.)

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                                      @Peter-Schiefer, please try to avoid quoting complete messages. Especially if they contain such large pictures. It is perfectly fine to quote lines you are responding to, but to quote complete messages is not necessary.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                        @Peter-Schiefer said in New update! (4.3.0) Project sync:

                                        Martin with this comment
                                        This new map layer, however, is available only for planning/editing routes with the "MRA Routeplanner".
                                        you are wrong.

                                        nope.

                                        Maybe you haven't discovered the MRA Routeplanner so far? Open the myRoute-app and then press this button:
                                        Routeplanner.jpg
                                        There you have the new maps for planning a route.

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                                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                          Hi all! ๐Ÿ‘‹

                                          This week, we got a lovely update for MyRoute-app coming your way ๐ŸŽ‰

                                          overview.png

                                          A massive shoutout to Joost is well deserved ๐Ÿ™‚ He works in the dark to serve the light! And he definitely brings to light to all MRA users with this update. After a lot of technical coding โŒจ we are proud to present this smashing 4.3.0 update: project Sync! ๐Ÿ˜

                                          Sync all your routes

                                          Sync? What is sync? According to the oxford dictionary:

                                          in (or out of) sync working well (or badly) together; in (or out of) agreement.

                                          With this update, the app will sync well with the website.
                                          Meaning that all your routes will be magically synced across both platforms ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ’ฅ

                                          sync.png

                                          You can sync all your routes or choose an individual route to be synced.
                                          When a route (or all for that matter) is marked as syncable, any changes made to that route in the app, will be uploaded to the website. Or when the route is modified on the website, it will be automatically updated on your phone ๐Ÿ˜
                                          By doing so, all your routes will be available in the app all the time and most important of all, they are up to date ๐ŸŽ‰

                                          offline.png

                                          Therefore the downloads folder now no longer contains your own routes.
                                          You also can't download your own routes as you were used to. Just sync them and you are ready to go!
                                          Groups / events / friends are not synced or available offline by default. You will still need to download these yourself and yes, they can be found in your downloads.

                                          Conflict handling

                                          What if you made changes in the app and on the website? How do we select the right one to save? We don't! You do ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          conflicts.png

                                          Conflicts are automatically detected and you are forced to resolve these in the app.

                                          Restyling information screen

                                          To facilitate the offline availability of all your routes, the information screen has been modified too!

                                          info.png

                                          A cleaner look and besides that the following options have been added:

                                          • Share link to route
                                          • Show QR code for easy access
                                          • Mark route to be synced
                                          • Delete

                                          Map styles navigation

                                          This one will make a lot of people very, very happy!

                                          The HERE map lacked some detail. Sad but true ๐Ÿ˜ž
                                          A weird development how all major map suppliers changed their colour scheme to be less rich in contrast.

                                          layers.png

                                          Head over to the map styling section and be amazed! We offer 3 different colour themes and 6 editions! Are you oriented on logistical roads, we got your back! ๐Ÿ˜ Want to use the old colour scheme? Try out "Wong" ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          Map configuration

                                          We all enjoy styling / customising the map. More settings have been added! ๐ŸŽ‰

                                          settings.png

                                          • Allow showing elevation differences in map (only for explore & topographic)
                                          • Change width / opacity of the displayed lines ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                                          • Change scaling of POI icons shown on the map ๐Ÿ’ฅ
                                          • Larger range of allowed zoom / tilt adjustments

                                          Elevation difference? Is that noticeable?

                                          elevation.png

                                          Oh hell yeah! ๐ŸŽ‰ (old / 3d / 2d). I mean, just look at it ๐Ÿ˜

                                          Improvements generated routes

                                          Did you ever generate a nice route? Did you ever want to save / share that? I guess both apply to you but you could never achieve the second ๐Ÿ˜ข
                                          An issue that is no more!

                                          share.png

                                          Generate a route and with the touch of a button, you can share the same configuration to your buddy. As this is a QR code, we expect the person that scans it, to be in the same location as you ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                          If not, just save the route! Then you can share the route and it will work too.

                                          Minor changes

                                          • Improved Spanish translations thanks to active MRA user Ramon C.L. โค
                                          • GPX files can be uploaded to MRA simply by opening them with the app
                                          • You can now switch between imperial and metric directly from the app
                                          • Fixed issue where some users could not use the search
                                          • Fixed issue that caused people from Luxemburg to not be able to save their tracklog
                                          • General textual improvements
                                          • Added information popups to complicated settings
                                          • HERE SDK updated to newest version

                                          Wrapup

                                          If this isn't a great update, I don't know what else we can do!
                                          Hopefully you all enjoy this update. After this update we will do another iteration concerning the app stability. Minor new features will also be added such as automatically starting your route at the nearest marker or locking your screen ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          Cheers,
                                          Corjan

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.3.0) Project sync:

                                          automatically starting your route at the nearest marker

                                          Excellent work again MRA team! Looking forward forward to automatically starting the route at the nearest marker. I'm guessing you can still select to start at the 1st marker.

                                          Love new map colours and options with the additional zoom and tilt ๐Ÿ‘Œ. Having bigger speed camera icons is great!

                                          Maps sync and not having to pre-download maps from when navigating offline is genius!!

                                          Well done team, keep on improving. Any news on battery drain? ๐Ÿป ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง.

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