Which Navigation App for IOS - tomtom go Vs myroute app

[big-vern]

Has anyone used both apps and has opinions on which is better.
I signed up to tomtom go then discovered MRA, then discovered MRA does navigations as well.

I do not have a tomtom device, just a iphone with the tomtom go on it

I have been planning my routes using the tomtom map in MRA website, which seems good. I like the fact tomtom app has some built in siri shortcuts (so I can clear the route etc. via my helmet mic)

I understand (just from a one liner in a vlog) that the MRA app uses the 'here' map - is that correct ?, is that better than the tomtom map

Just after some opinions/advice before I might switch, thanks

[RideOnWithFriends]

@Grahame-Lancaster i think that the here Maps is the better one and i use also Apple CarPlay - this is better with MRA

[Rob Verhoeff]

@Grahame-Lancaster Based on what I read, it seems you already have a gold subscription on the route planner because you're already planning routes in the TomTom map. Or are you sitll using the 2 weeks trial period? If you're satisfied with the planning options and navigation with TomTomGo, then you have a great planning tool and navigation package. The advantage of MRA-Next (the navigation part of the app) is having everything in one package. I don't have experience with TomTom maps other than adjusting a route for both Garmin and TomTom. I find the layout of the Here map somewhat subpar nowadays. When planning routes, I primarily use the Michelin overlay map on top of the Here map.

[Jack van Tilburg]

@Grahame-Lancaster said in Which Navigation App for IOS - tomtom go Vs myroute app:

which is better

First think for yourself what type of navigation device you want.
Are you satisfied with a navi that is based on driving? with tracks and therefore only map display and turn-by-turn announcements.
Or do you want a navi in which you want to see waypoints while driving with (many) additional display options.
Because in short, those are the most remarkable differences between MRA and TomTomGo.

[big-vern]

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[big-vern]

Thanks all
I'm going to switch from my IOS totmtom go app and try MRA NEXT App on same phone but have an issue;

Please correct any misunderstandings as I prep a route I already had planned for use with tomtom go for use with MRA NEXT

My workflow

I made a copy of the route in MRA and switched the map in MRA from tomtom to HERE, I zoomed in and corrected a couple of deviations from the original route. I was then happy with the route as it appeared in the mra HERE map.
I expanded the route to include 50 waypoints (Unsure as to how many to use?)
On expansion of the waypoints it added an extra 5 miles, unsure why it might do this? -

https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/8813607?mode=share
here is the ride expanded, issue is waypoint 28-29 , before expansion the route just followed a83-b828, no it goes a83-b828, then left hand turn onto unknown road and the long way around back up to waypoint 29

when expanding (by the correct amount of) waypoints do you then have to zoom in and check each one carefully or...trust MRA

pre expansion

post adding waypoints via the toolkit

[RetiredWingMan]

@Grahame-Lancaster very strange. Both Openstreetmaps and Tomtom use that section of road without any problems but HERE refuses to route over it. I can't see why. Perhaps it's gravel or some other restriction.

[Jack van Tilburg]

@Grahame-Lancaster
I can. not find the reason. But Disabling seasonal closures works.

[RetiredWingMan]

@Jack-van-Tilburg it would be helpful if there was someway to display seasonal closure information...

[big-vern]

thanks all and for solving @Jack-van-Tilburg , sods law for the test I had a road like that, at least it wasn't something I was doing.
say for a route like that how many way points might you say is a good number.
any other tips ?

[Jack van Tilburg]

@RetiredWingMan
I looked at that location with Street View and I see no indication that a closure may apply there. I cannot rule out that it is an error in the Here map.

[Jack van Tilburg]

@Grahame-Lancaster said in Which Navigation App for IOS - tomtom go Vs myroute app:

how many way points might you say is a good number

I always say; as little as possible but as much as necessary. Then think of locations that you absolutely want to pass and locations where it is possible that the navi can take a different route than you wish.

[Jack van Tilburg]

@Grahame-Lancaster said in Which Navigation App for IOS - tomtom go Vs myroute app:

any other tips ?

Use the compare function in the Toolit and try to make sure the three routes follow your route. And then place your waypoints as close as possible to the locations where the three routes are close to each other.

[Nick Carthew]

@Grahame-Lancaster The Rest and be Thankful Pass had a landslide a while ago and has had some closed periods. Now it is open but with restrictions.

https://www.traffic.gov.scot/travel-news/campaigns/a83-rest-and-be-thankful

[big-vern]

@Nick-Carthew Thanks Nick indeed.

[Nick Carthew]

@Grahame-Lancaster Tip: You should check each route point after expanding a route. Zoom in all route points completely and make sure they are placed correctly. Move route points if they are too close to: roundabouts, road intersections, exit roads, roads with separated lanes, wrong side of the road or viaducts.

Here is RP19 from your route, one that has been added by the system. When possible, you should try to consider a 20m ring of uncertainty for each route point. This is to allow for errors in the mapping and a weak satellite signal while navigating. RP19 could be seen by the navigation device as being on a number of roads here.

[Stuart Greer]

@Grahame-Lancaster I have a subscription for TomTom go and MRA Navigation Next. MRA is by far the superior product as there does not seem to be a way of importing a gpx file into TomTom Go without having access to a laptop. Even then you do not get any visible waypoints therefore not a viable option for tour planning. It does work quite well on Android Auto which is the only area where it is currently better than MRA however MRA Navigation Android Auto has improved tremendously of late.

[big-vern]

@Nick-Carthew Thanks again Nick, valuable info for me at this point.

[M. Schrijver]

A few years ago i spoke with some persons who really know things about navigation and there differences. This talk was about Garmin and TomTom.
Both brands have their advantages. But there was one thing these persons where very clear about. The TomTom maps are better. Not perse on the things we see on the map (types of roads, etc). But the information beneath the surface. The things we do not see. But which have an influence how the software reacts.

TomTom can, in comparison to Garmin, use more simply GPX files because their map is better. Garmin needs to put more info in the GPX files to overcome issues with the maps.

Garmin maps are based on Here maps. I don't know how MRA Next is affected by this.

Knowing this. Should you use TomTom Go instead of MRA Next. I don't know. That is your decision. But TomTom Go engine is already 10 years old and is proven very stable. MRA Next is pretty new and still need a decent amount of development to get this level of stabillty.

[Con Hennekens]

@Grahame-Lancaster, What is of great interest for me personally is the integration between planner and navigation. The ease of not needing to pre-loud your routes, and the simplicity of an app with a generic settings and menu structure. Also personally, the map HERE map could look much better...