Skipping shaping points automatically
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@Martin-Wilcke Make WP 12, 13, next time a Via-Point, that will not be skipped.
I had a similar situation in Frankfurt, I had to pick up something before the Hotel, for some reason (traffic, or?) the pickup Shaping point was skipped, and I was guided direct to the Hotel. Next time I will make it a Via-Point to prevent this.
@Jörgen, that is exactly the purpose of VIA points: Waypoints that you don't want to auto-skip, no matter what
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@Jörgen, that is exactly the purpose of VIA points: Waypoints that you don't want to auto-skip, no matter what
I absolutely agree with you about the different meaning of via and shaping points. I also like the algorithm according to which shaping points are automatically skipped.
In this specific case, of course, I didn't want to skip route points 12 and 13, and the interesting question is how to prevent this.
I looked at a few routes from the MRA library to get an understanding of whether there is a kind of "standard" for dealing with route points that relate to POIs / favourites or should otherwise be given a special meaning. It seems that such route points (in addition to being coloured other than blue) are then set as via points if the author recommends a "mandatory" stop here. However, if it is more of an "opportunity", a shaping point is set. From my point of view, this approach is correct and good and I have adopted it in the same way when creating my own routes.
That is why I would not set one of the points 12/13 as a viapoint (because they are "opportunities"), but instead add another (blue) shaping point and/or move point 14 a little. What do you think about this?
In any case, it is good to know that with such loops in a route, a "shortcut" can arise in the event of an auto skip, which one may not want at all.
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I absolutely agree with you about the different meaning of via and shaping points. I also like the algorithm according to which shaping points are automatically skipped.
In this specific case, of course, I didn't want to skip route points 12 and 13, and the interesting question is how to prevent this.
I looked at a few routes from the MRA library to get an understanding of whether there is a kind of "standard" for dealing with route points that relate to POIs / favourites or should otherwise be given a special meaning. It seems that such route points (in addition to being coloured other than blue) are then set as via points if the author recommends a "mandatory" stop here. However, if it is more of an "opportunity", a shaping point is set. From my point of view, this approach is correct and good and I have adopted it in the same way when creating my own routes.
That is why I would not set one of the points 12/13 as a viapoint (because they are "opportunities"), but instead add another (blue) shaping point and/or move point 14 a little. What do you think about this?
In any case, it is good to know that with such loops in a route, a "shortcut" can arise in the event of an auto skip, which one may not want at all.
@Martin-Wilcke
Here’s how I would do it:
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@Martin-Wilcke
Here’s how I would do it:
@Nick-Carthew said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
I would add a pink via point with a note...
A clever solution!
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@Nick-Carthew said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
I would add a pink via point with a note...
A clever solution!
Do you really mean via point? Not shaping point?
@Martin-Wilcke yes, a via point to ensure that you have the option to visit to 12/13.
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@Martin-Wilcke
Here’s how I would do it:
@Nick-Carthew if you add a pink viapoint with a message, how do you display the message during navigation?
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@Martin-Wilcke yes, a via point to ensure that you have the option to visit to 12/13.
@Nick-Carthew said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
@Martin-Wilcke yes, a via point to ensure that you have the option to visit to 12/13.
Right, that makes sense. Via point simply means "pass here" but not necessarily "stop (have a break) here".
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@Nick-Carthew if you add a pink viapoint with a message, how do you display the message during navigation?
@Doug-Robinson said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
if you add a pink viapoint with a message, how do you display the message during navigation?
In the app while navigating: shortly press the viapoint. Then you will see the text you typed in the viapoint-menu under 'Note'. When you added a photo, it will also apear.
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@Doug-Robinson said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
if you add a pink viapoint with a message, how do you display the message during navigation?
In the app while navigating: shortly press the viapoint. Then you will see the text you typed in the viapoint-menu under 'Note'. When you added a photo, it will also apear.
@Rob-Verhoeff @Doug-Robinson
No need to long press the route point if you select the option in Screen layout to show waypoint information. The information that you have added is displayed as scrolling text as you navigate.
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@Rob-Verhoeff @Doug-Robinson
No need to long press the route point if you select the option in Screen layout to show waypoint information. The information that you have added is displayed as scrolling text as you navigate.
@Nick-Carthew said in Skipping shaping points automatically:
No need to long press the route point
You're right, but that takes forever when you have a long text! Simply press SHORT (not long, because that skips the waypoint
The text will be presented in a textbox on the bottom of your screen. In CP the extra text presents itself on the left of the screen (in my car). -
@Rob-Verhoeff @Doug-Robinson
No need to long press the route point if you select the option in Screen layout to show waypoint information. The information that you have added is displayed as scrolling text as you navigate.
@Nick-Carthew thanks for the info, I was not aware of that recent change. The app is starting to get very complicated with all these features and options.
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