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  • Cleoundefined Offline
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    Cleo
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    What i mis in the Next version and the previous version is a virtual circle arround your destination what automatic stops navigation, on this moment i have to do this by hand. Is this by design or do i something wrong?

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    • Cleoundefined Cleo

      What i mis in the Next version and the previous version is a virtual circle arround your destination what automatic stops navigation, on this moment i have to do this by hand. Is this by design or do i something wrong?

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      Corjan Meijerink
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      #2

      @Cleo This is by design - it was preferred by the Beta group as now you can pass your destination, search for eg. parking and the navigation still continues 🙂

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      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

        @Cleo This is by design - it was preferred by the Beta group as now you can pass your destination, search for eg. parking and the navigation still continues 🙂

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        @Corjan-Meijerink and definitely do not change this. 😋

        Toggle switch? 😋

        Manks bu'j te bange.

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        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

          @Corjan-Meijerink and definitely do not change this. 😋

          Toggle switch? 😋

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          @StefanHummelink Not another.... 😉

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          • Cleoundefined Offline
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            Cleo
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            #5

            A toggle will be helpfull and don't use only for my designed routes but also voor simple a to b

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            • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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              M. Schrijver
              wrote on last edited by M. Schrijver
              #6

              I think i agree with Cleo.
              When a route ends, it simply ends.
              For me there are 2 reasons why a route ends

              • I arrived at my destination. A hotel, restaurant, etc.
              • The route ends somewhere and from there i will ride straight to home.

              First reason. If your're there, you're there. Do you need MRA to navigate you to a seat for eating or drinking?
              You could probably add a suggestion for a nearby parking.

              Mainly the second reason is why i agree with Cleo.
              When the route stops just somewhere and I drive straight to home. The navigation will be nagging me to turn around.

              I've discussed this before.
              For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
              I'm very simple with this.

              I start a route and start driving. Once driving I try the best i can to follow the route. When this is not possible, it is the navigations job to find a solution as fast and good as possible. Without me need to push anything on the screen. This includes automatic skipping shaping points as much as necessary.
              This is the part where TomTom Go really shines. The Riders not so much because they are too slow in calculations.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                I think i agree with Cleo.
                When a route ends, it simply ends.
                For me there are 2 reasons why a route ends

                • I arrived at my destination. A hotel, restaurant, etc.
                • The route ends somewhere and from there i will ride straight to home.

                First reason. If your're there, you're there. Do you need MRA to navigate you to a seat for eating or drinking?
                You could probably add a suggestion for a nearby parking.

                Mainly the second reason is why i agree with Cleo.
                When the route stops just somewhere and I drive straight to home. The navigation will be nagging me to turn around.

                I've discussed this before.
                For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
                I'm very simple with this.

                I start a route and start driving. Once driving I try the best i can to follow the route. When this is not possible, it is the navigations job to find a solution as fast and good as possible. Without me need to push anything on the screen. This includes automatic skipping shaping points as much as necessary.
                This is the part where TomTom Go really shines. The Riders not so much because they are too slow in calculations.

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                Corjan Meijerink
                administrator
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @M-Schrijver but you can just quit the navigation when you parked your car 🙂 No need to do while driving.

                Not stopping navigation means you can just ignore it but if navigation is stopped and you do need to use it, you need a lot more actions / interactions with your phone before you can continue 😉

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  @M-Schrijver but you can just quit the navigation when you parked your car 🙂 No need to do while driving.

                  Not stopping navigation means you can just ignore it but if navigation is stopped and you do need to use it, you need a lot more actions / interactions with your phone before you can continue 😉

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                  Cleo
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                  #8

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Why do the stop manual? That’s an extra step, even to step because you have to confirm that want to stop.
                  Why do something by hand if you can automate it? A toggle switch will do.

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                    M. Schrijver
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                    #9

                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                    I use MRA on Android Auto on my Motorcycle which doesn't have a touch screen. I need the arrow buttons for it. It cost me at least 5 seconds eyes off the road to select the option to cancel the route. Which is not safe
                    The smartphone is out of reach. What typical is when using Android Auto or Apple Carplay.

                    Besides that. Routes rarely ends on parkings ,etc Mostly just somewhere on a road.

                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                      I use MRA on Android Auto on my Motorcycle which doesn't have a touch screen. I need the arrow buttons for it. It cost me at least 5 seconds eyes off the road to select the option to cancel the route. Which is not safe
                      The smartphone is out of reach. What typical is when using Android Auto or Apple Carplay.

                      Besides that. Routes rarely ends on parkings ,etc Mostly just somewhere on a road.

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                      Lynchy67
                      wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                      #10

                      @M-Schrijver

                      I am not familiar with Android Auto (or Car Play) but surely if you are about to cancel the Route anyway, why wouldn’t you just stop and cancel the Route on the phone?
                      Surely that’s a safer option?

                      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        M. Schrijver
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                        #11

                        You mean stop on middle of the road, take the phone out of my trunk, backpack or whatever to push a cancel button???

                        I don't see the logic of that.

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                          Jörgen
                          Instructor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Why do you need to stop in the middle of the road and switch off navigation?
                          Leave it running and search for a parking place.

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                          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                            @M-Schrijver but you can just quit the navigation when you parked your car 🙂 No need to do while driving.

                            Not stopping navigation means you can just ignore it but if navigation is stopped and you do need to use it, you need a lot more actions / interactions with your phone before you can continue 😉

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                            @Corjan-Meijerink

                            These kind of things are not worth discussing because the simple solution is to have an option button so everybody can set it the way they want it.

                            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                              M. Schrijver
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Jörgen
                              It is just about the principal.
                              When a route ends, it ends. Simple as it can be.

                              I can understand if the navigation suggest an extra route to a parking place at the end of the route.

                              It has already been suggested twice here. Let the user choose.

                              I understand. I lot of options/toggles does not make the software user friendly. It is a real art to create a piece of software which suits a big group.

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                I think i agree with Cleo.
                                When a route ends, it simply ends.
                                For me there are 2 reasons why a route ends

                                • I arrived at my destination. A hotel, restaurant, etc.
                                • The route ends somewhere and from there i will ride straight to home.

                                First reason. If your're there, you're there. Do you need MRA to navigate you to a seat for eating or drinking?
                                You could probably add a suggestion for a nearby parking.

                                Mainly the second reason is why i agree with Cleo.
                                When the route stops just somewhere and I drive straight to home. The navigation will be nagging me to turn around.

                                I've discussed this before.
                                For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
                                I'm very simple with this.

                                I start a route and start driving. Once driving I try the best i can to follow the route. When this is not possible, it is the navigations job to find a solution as fast and good as possible. Without me need to push anything on the screen. This includes automatic skipping shaping points as much as necessary.
                                This is the part where TomTom Go really shines. The Riders not so much because they are too slow in calculations.

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                                Con Hennekens
                                wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                                #15

                                @M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
                                I'm very simple with this.

                                For safety reasons: you don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding, when you had to pass your destination but had no method of safe stopping or parking. My routes are not over until I say so... I'm very simple with this 😉

                                @Cleo said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                Why do the stop manual? That’s an extra step

                                It is a lot more extra steps if you need to restart the route manually while riding.

                                @M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                It has already been suggested twice here. Let the user choose.

                                Two suggestions are not mainstream. And maybe some users need to be protected against themselves? 😉

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                  Jörgen
                                  Instructor
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  The topic has already been discussed in detail in the past, and the decision was not made for an automatic stop.
                                  I think there are more important issues at the moment.

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                                  • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                    The topic has already been discussed in detail in the past, and the decision was not made for an automatic stop.
                                    I think there are more important issues at the moment.

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                                    @Jörgen Exact 🙂

                                    On my motorcycle, I use a DMD-T665 navigation phone paired with a SilverFox controller. In my car, I use wireless CarPlay with my iPhone 15 Pro.

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                                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                      @M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                      For safety reason: You just don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding.
                                      I'm very simple with this.

                                      For safety reasons: you don't want to push buttons on your screen while riding, when you had to pass your destination but had no method of safe stopping or parking. My routes are not over until I say so... I'm very simple with this 😉

                                      @Cleo said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                      Why do the stop manual? That’s an extra step

                                      It is a lot more extra steps if you need to restart the route manually while riding.

                                      @M-Schrijver said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                      It has already been suggested twice here. Let the user choose.

                                      Two suggestions are not mainstream. And maybe some users need to be protected against themselves? 😉

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                                      @Con-Hennekens said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                      And maybe some users need to be protected against themselves? 😉

                                      Indeed. That's why it is important a route stops when it ends
                                      I've seen what happens when people who are not familiar enough with navigation. They just ride and follow the navigation and keep on riding in circles.
                                      When navigation stops on your endpoint. You know are there where you want or need to be.

                                      @Con-Hennekens said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                      It is a lot more extra steps if you need to restart the route manually while riding.

                                      I don't get this one. Like i said a route ends when it's end. Normally that's on a location where you want or need to be. Why do you need to start the navigation again on that location?

                                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                      • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                        The topic has already been discussed in detail in the past, and the decision was not made for an automatic stop.
                                        I think there are more important issues at the moment.

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                                        @Jörgen said in When you reach your destination you have to cancel navigation manual:

                                        I think there are more important issues at the moment.

                                        Yes, a proper recalculation procedure. The current one is not good enough.

                                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                          Just a question to be sure.

                                          Are we talking about stopping the navigation at the end of the route or somewhere halfway for a lunchstop e.g.?

                                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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