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  • Greenhamundefined Greenham

    Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

    It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

    It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

    Am I right?

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    @Greenham said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

    Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

    It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

    It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

    Am I right?

    Yes that is possible, but the POI in MRA is quite rudimentary, you can only enter a name in the database.
    here is an example of a file that you can read in GPS Visulizer for example and convert to GPX.

    Exceldata.JPG

    https://www.gpsvisualizer.com/convert_input?convert_format=gpx

    For myself I have made a VBA program in Excel that converts the above data into a GPX file, which I upload in MRA.
    The reason for this is that MRA has some trouble with the CSV files and that Excel subconsciously converts my CSV numbers.
    I am currently busy converting the Excel VBA to Openoffice and expanding the GPX export so that I can enter more data such as warnings and heights that my Garmin device can use.

    Please note that you have to divide the different POIs, you cannot change the category in MRA. they all get the same icon.
    Below my (Chaotic) own POI library, by uploading them differently you can use different icons.

    Exceldata2.JPG

    BertM

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    • Greenhamundefined Greenham

      Is there an easy way to bulk upload POI's? I am referring to the use of a spreadsheet/CVS that I would properly add all my desired POI's into a spreadsheet then upload them ALL?

      It would be really handy to have a formatted example of a spreadsheet/CVS with all the proper headings for easy population. They could be easily shared, added too etc.

      It has to be fairly easy as this is just one big database.

      Am I right?

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      Adrian Avram
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      @Greenham I have a POI file that I am constantly updating and I use this website. I upload the file, add points, then download the new updated file.
      https://www.poieditor.com/

      Best regards,
      Adrian

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      • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

        Da's heel apart, die ik het in ChatGPT dan krijg ik dit te zien:

        24dfe37a-c4a1-491a-b817-8b341a2e64d4-image.png

        Geen .gpx bestand zoals bij @Dikke-Wim. Doe ik iets verkeerd?

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        @Nomko-Nomden

        Ik heb ChatGPT gebruikt en daarbinnen de ChatBot "Travel Guide". Helaas kun je die maar zeer beperkt gratis gebruiken. Dus gisteravond moest ik wachten om verder te kunnen.

        Maar uiteindelijk wordt er een GPX file gegenereerd en een KML file op mijn verzoek om in Google Earth e.a. te kunnen zien.

        Zie hieronder wat ik bedoel met "Travel Guide">

        0397d99d-08be-4875-b9f2-1e811e769ae7-image.png

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        • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

          @Nomko-Nomden

          Ik heb ChatGPT gebruikt en daarbinnen de ChatBot "Travel Guide". Helaas kun je die maar zeer beperkt gratis gebruiken. Dus gisteravond moest ik wachten om verder te kunnen.

          Maar uiteindelijk wordt er een GPX file gegenereerd en een KML file op mijn verzoek om in Google Earth e.a. te kunnen zien.

          Zie hieronder wat ik bedoel met "Travel Guide">

          0397d99d-08be-4875-b9f2-1e811e769ae7-image.png

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          @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

          This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

          You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
          Which gives a dialog like this.

          QuickOSM.jpg
          And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

          POI Exporter.jpg

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          • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

            @Dikke-Wim you can also use Qgis to harvest POI's from OSM mapping.

            This is Castles for UK and Ireland.ksnip_20250113-163911.jpg

            You need two add ins to get the information QuickOSM
            Which gives a dialog like this.

            QuickOSM.jpg
            And POI exporter which allows export as a GPX file that MRA can read.

            POI Exporter.jpg

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            @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

              @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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              @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

              Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

              1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

              Overpass-1.jpg

              1. export as gpx

              Overpass-2.jpg

              1. upload into MRA

              Overpass-3.jpg

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              • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

                Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

                1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

                Overpass-1.jpg

                1. export as gpx

                Overpass-2.jpg

                1. upload into MRA

                Overpass-3.jpg

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                I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
                I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
                MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

                POIEXcel.JPG

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                • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                  @Dikke-Wim @Mzokk

                  Here's another attempt in three simple steps:

                  1. Launch a query on overpass-turbo.eu

                  Overpass-1.jpg

                  1. export as gpx

                  Overpass-2.jpg

                  1. upload into MRA

                  Overpass-3.jpg

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                  #13

                  @Martin-Wilcke
                  Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
                  However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                  Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

                  See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
                  e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

                  Cornwall without any castles
                  9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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                  • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                    @Martin-Wilcke
                    Thank you very much! It seems to work great....
                    However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                    Do you have any idea how to fix this? See screendumps below.

                    See e.g. Cornwall with many castles
                    e39f2ddb-5d1a-447d-9a07-6b545ca257d5-image.png

                    Cornwall without any castles
                    9d561261-31ca-4173-94b3-d2512543137b-image.png

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                    However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                    Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

                    Overpass:
                    UK Castles 1.jpg

                    Imported:
                    UK Castles 2.jpg

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                    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                      @Dikke-Wim said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                      However, not all dots of castles of South UH that are shown on the map are found in MRA when imported.

                      Hmmm... Maybe you need to zoom in?

                      Overpass:
                      UK Castles 1.jpg

                      Imported:
                      UK Castles 2.jpg

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                      wrote on last edited by Dikke Wim
                      #15

                      @Martin-Wilcke

                      Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                      Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                      Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                      1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                      No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                      e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                      the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                      8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                      • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                        @Martin-Wilcke

                        Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                        Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                        Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                        1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                        No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                        e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                        the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                        8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                        #16

                        @Dikke-Wim

                        OK - let's focus on "Crane Castle" as an example; it's this one:

                        crane 1.jpg

                        Please have a look at the GPX you've uploaded with an editor and search for "Crane", there should be a match like this:

                        crane 2.jpg

                        In MRA, search for "Portreath" and zoom in to a scale of 1 km / 1 mile or less:

                        crane 3.jpg

                        Does it show up?

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                        • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                          @Martin-Wilcke

                          Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                          Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                          Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                          1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                          No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                          e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                          the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                          8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                          @Dikke-Wim

                          And one more note:

                          I have just noticed that "historic=castle" can be modelled both as a ‘node’ (point) and as a ‘way’ (path, here in the sense of area). They appear as yellow dots for nodes and red dots for ways/areas.

                          That's why my example query node ["historic"="castle"]; is not ideal, because it only finds castles that are modelled as a point.

                          Better, as in your example, is nwr ["historic"="castle"]; as it includes nodes, ways and relations.

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                          • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                            @Martin-Wilcke

                            Unfortunately even when I zoom in more than in the example above, no additional castles appear. Only "few" of the cirkels with castles in the overpass.eu website, are visible.

                            Any suggestions what I do wrong?

                            Example of the map with castles in Cornwall
                            1b0ccb6d-7087-4a15-b18e-b45c0c2d965e-image.png

                            No castles in Cornwall after importing the GPX file
                            e6571a01-0273-4e94-9854-ccb350ee1905-image.png

                            the KML file shows more castles in Google Earth than the GPX file in MRA

                            8de64d6b-ea55-4f0d-8789-1b8ac9469b67-image.png

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                            @Dikke-Wim

                            OK - I got it.

                            You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                            Here's the result

                            https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                            for the query:

                            UK Castles 3.jpg

                            Sorry for the confusion!

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                            • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

                              @Mzokk Thanks a lot. But.... is a lot of work I guess. Therefore I prefer AI who takes over the difficult stuff. I'm doing some experiments with AI. Curious how things work out.

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                              @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                              • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                @Dikke-Wim

                                OK - I got it.

                                You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                                Here's the result

                                https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                                for the query:

                                UK Castles 3.jpg

                                Sorry for the confusion!

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                                @Martin-Wilcke

                                Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                                f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                                • Mzokkundefined Mzokk

                                  @Dikke-Wim Somewhat less work than the method you describe👍

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                                  @Mzokk

                                  What method do you mean? I don't get it.
                                  For me: the easier the better!

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                                    @Martin-Wilcke

                                    Thanks Martin. It works now much better (see below).
                                    f45a36c1-6b9e-41bd-ba3c-03809ef23506-image.png

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                                    #22

                                    @Dikke-Wim
                                    👍

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                                    • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke

                                      @Dikke-Wim

                                      OK - I got it.

                                      You need an out centre (instead of an out geom) to create a single node for ways/areas. This will generate waypoints for both types (nodes and ways) when exporting as GPX.

                                      Here's the result

                                      https://hidrive.ionos.com/lnk/LhseBgcKc

                                      for the query:

                                      UK Castles 3.jpg

                                      Sorry for the confusion!

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                                      @Martin-Wilcke this is amazing never knew how to use this feature! It would be of great help if the MRA team @Corjan-Meijerink could make a YouTube tutorial on this. 🙏

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                                      • BertMundefined BertM

                                        I do not think @Greenham want to harvest POI's but to put his own POI's into MRA in bulk.
                                        I use Excel to make them and then convert to GPX.
                                        MRA only uses the description but If I load them into my Garmin I get the other fields also. I am now busy to find out how to bulk import a GPX into my little housemade tool.

                                        POIEXcel.JPG

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                                        @BertM

                                        Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

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                                          @BertM

                                          Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

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                                          @Greenham said in Bulk Upload of POI's:

                                          @BertM

                                          Yes this is what I am trying to do. Add my own POI's

                                          As another member of this forum asked me the same because I replied here, I have been dusting off my 20 year old programming skills in Excel VBA 🙂

                                          the today status of the tools is the following

                                          • Import simple POI GPX files into Excel

                                          • Edit the imported file and add Symbol, Description, Street, Phone etc for import into Garmin devices

                                          • Export the POI file to GPX format

                                          • Double Click on the filled in row and the POI wil open in Google maps.

                                          Excel file with Ribbon (KML does not work yet)
                                          MOHO hotels GPX imported into Excel
                                          *

                                          55fe76c9-4529-4956-aa88-187b6e52461c-image.png

                                          3rd Item in the list selected and button "Show in Google Maps" selected

                                          e23dc9f7-65d3-43b3-9234-a73992e056d5-image.png

                                          Import in MRA from GPX file
                                          108d4b72-58e8-4f93-996c-5a584a2aa1d3-image.png

                                          Import in Basecamp with selected symbol
                                          c26cd62c-f8ee-4dff-9e24-924ad4cc7c21-image.png

                                          Data added in Excel and transferred to Garmin GPX, see also the different symbols in the same GPX

                                          c3212141-58ca-4b2b-b383-37443fec46e0-image.png

                                          Send me your email in a PB and I send you the current file with the following status:

                                          • Made and only tested in Excel/Windows10

                                          • Error handeling is still poor in the progarmming

                                          • Program as is, it works on my system, not tested on other equipment.

                                          • Program is made in MS VBA and not tested in other programs.

                                          regards,
                                          Bert

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