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Route Planning on the fly for the Garmin XT

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  • Don Staufferundefined Offline
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    I've used MRA for route planning for several years, setting up routes using the browser interface on a PC. All the routes end up downloaded to my Garmin XT using the GPX 1.1 format.

    Today I found a spot for breakfast, and over coffee I created a nice afternoon ride on my phone using the MRA web app. I was able to export it to my Garmin and I was ready to roll. I found the route in the Trip Planner, and selected 'Closest Entry Point' as Next Destination.

    The Garmin routed me directly to my destination, ignoring my shaping points. I checked the Track, and saw that the intended route was accurate as a track. This was a good lesson, the Track routing is not altered by the Garmin. But of course you lose things like arrival time and turn-by-turn navigation.

    I've not had this issue using the web app on my PC. I'm wondering what it is about this route that prevented 'Closest Entry Point" to ignore the entire route. I was wondering if the approximate location of the shaping points entered on a phone could be an issue.

    I've made the route public, and here is the link. I'd appreciate any comments!

    https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/9426445

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    • Don Staufferundefined Don Stauffer

      I've used MRA for route planning for several years, setting up routes using the browser interface on a PC. All the routes end up downloaded to my Garmin XT using the GPX 1.1 format.

      Today I found a spot for breakfast, and over coffee I created a nice afternoon ride on my phone using the MRA web app. I was able to export it to my Garmin and I was ready to roll. I found the route in the Trip Planner, and selected 'Closest Entry Point' as Next Destination.

      The Garmin routed me directly to my destination, ignoring my shaping points. I checked the Track, and saw that the intended route was accurate as a track. This was a good lesson, the Track routing is not altered by the Garmin. But of course you lose things like arrival time and turn-by-turn navigation.

      I've not had this issue using the web app on my PC. I'm wondering what it is about this route that prevented 'Closest Entry Point" to ignore the entire route. I was wondering if the approximate location of the shaping points entered on a phone could be an issue.

      I've made the route public, and here is the link. I'd appreciate any comments!

      https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/9426445

      RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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      RetiredWingMan
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      @Don-Stauffer I don't use a garmin so I don't know the intricacies of transferring from MRA to Garmin. I did look at your route. 2, 3 & 4 are quite a ways off the route. 6 & 9 almost appear to be accidental detours resulting in u-turns. I don't know if that was intentional. Otherwise I don't see any issues with route.

      2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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      • Don Staufferundefined Don Stauffer

        I've used MRA for route planning for several years, setting up routes using the browser interface on a PC. All the routes end up downloaded to my Garmin XT using the GPX 1.1 format.

        Today I found a spot for breakfast, and over coffee I created a nice afternoon ride on my phone using the MRA web app. I was able to export it to my Garmin and I was ready to roll. I found the route in the Trip Planner, and selected 'Closest Entry Point' as Next Destination.

        The Garmin routed me directly to my destination, ignoring my shaping points. I checked the Track, and saw that the intended route was accurate as a track. This was a good lesson, the Track routing is not altered by the Garmin. But of course you lose things like arrival time and turn-by-turn navigation.

        I've not had this issue using the web app on my PC. I'm wondering what it is about this route that prevented 'Closest Entry Point" to ignore the entire route. I was wondering if the approximate location of the shaping points entered on a phone could be an issue.

        I've made the route public, and here is the link. I'd appreciate any comments!

        https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/9426445

        Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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        Marinus van Deudekom
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        @Don-Stauffer how did you transfer thé route, with Garmin Drive. You could also use thé 1.2 export.
        Like retired wingman said thé shaping points must be ON thé route. Did you place the starting viapoint not at thé place you had your coiffée but just it bit further Waay?
        Planning on a phone is somewhat dificult and takes Some practicing

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          if the track is correct then there is always the option to convert the track in a route in your xt. still you only have start and end but this can work.

          what i do not understand why you not started te route to begin.

          Bouke

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          • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

            @Don-Stauffer I don't use a garmin so I don't know the intricacies of transferring from MRA to Garmin. I did look at your route. 2, 3 & 4 are quite a ways off the route. 6 & 9 almost appear to be accidental detours resulting in u-turns. I don't know if that was intentional. Otherwise I don't see any issues with route.

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            Don Stauffer
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            @RetiredWingMan Yes, the routing points were somewhat inaccurate, as I was placing them using my phone. The 'accidents' you see were probably the results of routing to a town, I found that to be an easy way to route over secondary roads.

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            • Don Staufferundefined Don Stauffer

              @RetiredWingMan Yes, the routing points were somewhat inaccurate, as I was placing them using my phone. The 'accidents' you see were probably the results of routing to a town, I found that to be an easy way to route over secondary roads.

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              Brian McG
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              Hi @Don-Stauffer,
              I think what you are experiencing is a known bug with the XT where when it is having trouble calculating an entry piont it discards all Shaping points & routes to the next Via piont which in your case may be the final destination

              I had similar issues last year using an XT, so it now sits in the bottom of a drawer & I am using MRA Navigation as IMO the XT is pretty much useless as a sat nav as it has a mind of its own when recalculate is on.

              BlackView BV7100, Android 12, Offline mode with Offline Maps

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