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Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?

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  • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

    Hi All,

    As is quite familiar by know, several users are bothered by a position delay of the cursor/flyer in relation to the actual position the road. I was one of the first users here to confirm (back in spring 2023 or so) that running another GPS app, such as Flitsmeister in parallel to MRA Navigation Next almost completely solves this issue. At the time I was already relieved to find that FM worked a charm and did not look any further.

    Since this issue has by now been identified to be caused by the HERE SDK, I've checked whether or not FM is the only app that shows improvements to the position delay.

    I would like to ask all users that are familiar with this use, that is: they are still bothered with it, to check whether or not other GPS apps are also effective in signficantly reducing the position delay/lag.

    These results may aid Corjan and HERE in finding the root cause.

    Phone characteristics:

    • Brand: OnePlus
    • Type: OnePlus 6 (ONEPLUS A6003)
    • OS version: Android 11, OxygenOS 11.1.2.2
    • OS Build nr: ONEPLUS A6003_22_211125

    I checked the following apps:

    • Flitsmeister: delay gone
    • Waze: delay gone
    • TomTom MyDrive: no effect
    • Google Maps: no effect

    On behalf of us all: thanks 😁

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    wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
    #6

    @Stefan-Hummelink,

    Third case in, a friend 😉

    Phone characteristics:

    • Brand: Oppo
    • Type: A5 (CPH1931)
    • OS version: Android 10, ColorOS7.1

    GMaps seems to help a bit, Flitmeister not tried yet.

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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    • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

      @Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

      Google location servic

      This on its own would be contradicted by the fact that running GMaps in parallel did nothing at all for the delay on my OP6. 😄

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      @Stefan-Hummelink, I think the devices chipset could be a big deal for this problem. But that is more difficult to ask for.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Stefan-Hummelink, I think the devices chipset could be a big deal for this problem. But that is more difficult to ask for.

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        @Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

        devices chipset

        Indeed, if the HERE dev's think that may be a good to know, they can extract it based on our provided model info :).

        Manks bu'j te bange.

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        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

          @Con-Hennekens said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

          devices chipset

          Indeed, if the HERE dev's think that may be a good to know, they can extract it based on our provided model info :).

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          @Stefan-Hummelink, exactly.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            #10

            FM is not available in my area, j found that running a Speedometer app in the background fixes the issue.

            Samsung Galaxy S20 5G. Android 13 UI 5.1

            2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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            • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

              FM is not available in my area, j found that running a Speedometer app in the background fixes the issue.

              Samsung Galaxy S20 5G. Android 13 UI 5.1

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              @RetiredWingMan Thanks for reporting! 😄

              Manks bu'j te bange.

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                #12

                iPhone 12
                iOS 17.4.1
                MRA 4.1.2 303

                No other GPS tool running

                No delay

                Hardware
                iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                For more information, click here

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                • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                  iPhone 12
                  iOS 17.4.1
                  MRA 4.1.2 303

                  No other GPS tool running

                  No delay

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                  #13

                  @Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                  No delay

                  Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome 😁...

                  Manks bu'j te bange.

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                    #14

                    The GPS receiver is in most cases a part of the phones SOC.

                    The cause is probably the SOC software together with Here software
                    You need to build a large database with Phones specs and which has the problem or not. From there Here needs to do some fixes.
                    Sadly there are to much different phones in use to build a proper database on this forum.

                    My Input:
                    I use Android Auto which uses the Goldwings GPS receiver.
                    This one is most of the time a bit behind. How much?
                    Mostly 20-50 meters but sometimes up to 200 meters.

                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                      The GPS receiver is in most cases a part of the phones SOC.

                      The cause is probably the SOC software together with Here software
                      You need to build a large database with Phones specs and which has the problem or not. From there Here needs to do some fixes.
                      Sadly there are to much different phones in use to build a proper database on this forum.

                      My Input:
                      I use Android Auto which uses the Goldwings GPS receiver.
                      This one is most of the time a bit behind. How much?
                      Mostly 20-50 meters but sometimes up to 200 meters.

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                      @M-Schrijver said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                      You need to build a large database

                      Haha ya, for sure. This was an initial attempt. 😊

                      Manks bu'j te bange.

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                        #16

                        Here also on both an iPhone SE 2020 and a Google Pixel 7, there is a significant delay and therefore worthless to start and promote use in our Oldtimer Club.
                        If there is a solution please do, because this makes all other great solutions within MRA unusable.

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                        • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                          @Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                          No delay

                          Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome 😁...

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                          @Stefan-Hummelink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                          @Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                          No delay

                          Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome 😁...

                          Ok, ok,

                          Today with
                          Oukitel tablet RT3
                          Android 12,
                          MRA 4.1.2 V 303
                          No other GPS tool running
                          Big delay (20-30m)

                          With Altimeter App runing in the background

                          No or acceptable delay.

                          Hardware
                          iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                          Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                          For more information, click here

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                          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                            @Stefan-Hummelink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                            @Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                            No delay

                            Hahahaha Although it was the idea to post the phones that do have a delay, your response is always welcome 😁...

                            Ok, ok,

                            Today with
                            Oukitel tablet RT3
                            Android 12,
                            MRA 4.1.2 V 303
                            No other GPS tool running
                            Big delay (20-30m)

                            With Altimeter App runing in the background

                            No or acceptable delay.

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                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Jörgen said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                            No or acceptable delay.

                            Awesome! This is the kind of information that may be useful for @Corjan-Meijerink to feedback to HERE, or HERE can read this forum thread haha.

                            Manks bu'j te bange.

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                              With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update! 🎉

                              Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink ❤
                              He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! 😃 Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!

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                              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update! 🎉

                                Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink ❤
                                He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! 😃 Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!

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                                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Position delay/lag quick fix - which app works, which do not?:

                                Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink

                                So glad and proud that I was able to contribute to your solution! 😎

                                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                  With genuine enthusiasm I can announce that the position delay will be fixed in the upcoming 4.1.3 update! 🎉

                                  Thanks for testing @Stefan-Hummelink ❤
                                  He had an Android device that displayed the issue consistently and now that is gone! 😃 Therefore I can only conclude that our efforts were not in vain!

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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink Great news ! One more step towards a solid reliable app. I plan to stay away from AA and CP for the foreseeable future. 😀

                                  2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                                    #22

                                    Same problem here!
                                    Phone characteristics:

                                    Brand: Oppo
                                    Type: Reno 6pro
                                    OS version: Android 13.1

                                    I checked the following apps:
                                    Flitsmeister: delay gone
                                    Waze: delay gone
                                    TomTom MyDrive: no effect
                                    Google Maps: no effect

                                    My friend has the same problem with:
                                    Phone characteristics:

                                    Brand: Oppo
                                    Type: Reno 10 pro
                                    OS version: Android 13.1
                                    I checked the following apps:

                                    Flitsmeister: delay gone
                                    Waze: delay gone
                                    TomTom MyDrive: no effect
                                    Google Maps: no effect

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                                    • Yannick Rundefined Yannick R

                                      Same problem here!
                                      Phone characteristics:

                                      Brand: Oppo
                                      Type: Reno 6pro
                                      OS version: Android 13.1

                                      I checked the following apps:
                                      Flitsmeister: delay gone
                                      Waze: delay gone
                                      TomTom MyDrive: no effect
                                      Google Maps: no effect

                                      My friend has the same problem with:
                                      Phone characteristics:

                                      Brand: Oppo
                                      Type: Reno 10 pro
                                      OS version: Android 13.1
                                      I checked the following apps:

                                      Flitsmeister: delay gone
                                      Waze: delay gone
                                      TomTom MyDrive: no effect
                                      Google Maps: no effect

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                                      @Yannick-b Thanks for your response!
                                      Luckily for us, the dev's managed to fix this delay issue in total in the latest Beta release. This version will eventually become the public release but you'll have to wait a bit😄

                                      I can confirm that the latest Beta solved the delay issue for me!

                                      Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                      • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                                        @Yannick-b Thanks for your response!
                                        Luckily for us, the dev's managed to fix this delay issue in total in the latest Beta release. This version will eventually become the public release but you'll have to wait a bit😄

                                        I can confirm that the latest Beta solved the delay issue for me!

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                                        @Stefan-Hummelink i am an beta user
                                        my last update was on 9-5.
                                        That day i still had the delay

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                                        • Yannick Rundefined Yannick R

                                          @Stefan-Hummelink i am an beta user
                                          my last update was on 9-5.
                                          That day i still had the delay

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                                          @Yannick-b Can you please tell us which beta version you were actually running during that treft in 9-5?

                                          Manks bu'j te bange.

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