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  • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

    This is the image of a route in the TomTom GoRideApp.
    It's funny when you consider that TomTomGo is a paid app and GoRide is free.
    By the way, I'm not that attached to waypoints and POIs. So that's why I usually use the TomTomGo (with CarPlay).

    IMG_1994.PNG

    This route was not put on PlanTomTom via the "save as" function, but uploaded as a GPX 1.1 file.

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    @Jack-van-Tilburg
    TomTom Go Ride is indeed free compared to TomTom Go app.
    I've only used Go Ride briefly and fiddle with it on my couch. But is has some limitations.

    No offline maps. This has advantages. No navigation problems when there is no data coverage and it limits the data usage drasticly.
    2.
    No sidebar. This sidebar shows route, gasstations and traffic info for the coming 50 km's. I love this function. This is what i miss in MRA Next.
    3.
    I'm not certain about this one. But you it seems you need to be careful what you do with the route when on the road. Before you know you have a route directly to your endpoint.

    B.T.W
    I like graphics of Go Ride more than TomTom Go. The graphics of Go Ride are more clean and clear. I don't what it is but it probably how the map is shown on screen. Less detail or something like that.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

      @Jack-van-Tilburg
      TomTom Go Ride is indeed free compared to TomTom Go app.
      I've only used Go Ride briefly and fiddle with it on my couch. But is has some limitations.

      No offline maps. This has advantages. No navigation problems when there is no data coverage and it limits the data usage drasticly.
      2.
      No sidebar. This sidebar shows route, gasstations and traffic info for the coming 50 km's. I love this function. This is what i miss in MRA Next.
      3.
      I'm not certain about this one. But you it seems you need to be careful what you do with the route when on the road. Before you know you have a route directly to your endpoint.

      B.T.W
      I like graphics of Go Ride more than TomTom Go. The graphics of Go Ride are more clean and clear. I don't what it is but it probably how the map is shown on screen. Less detail or something like that.

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      @M-Schrijver
      As I mentioned earlier, I am not very interested in waypoints or POIs on my navigation screen. I rarely look at it and when I do look at the screen I just want to be able to quickly see how my route is going. I know my route and I don't need the navi to find a lunch or coffee location. I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me. My breaks are unplanned. I am also in the comfortable position that my motorcycle has a large tank and I do not easily run out of fuel. And that also applies to my (current) traveling companions.
      Of course, this will be very different if you are going on a tour for a group, because there will probably be people who need all that information.
      πŸ˜€ And I'll probably want that information when I'm older. But then the navi should probably also tell me why I'm on the bike and where I'm going. Because I keep forgetting that by then. πŸ˜€
      (Please see this comment as a comic note)

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        @Peter-Schiefer
        Of course I include the points I want to see or visit in my routes. I don't want to miss them. And that is why I explore the locations while planning in MRA planner. In difficult locations I can usually use street view.
        If I am on a multi-day trip, we discuss the next day's route in the evening. Because I'm old enough to have forgotten the details a few weeks after planning πŸ˜‰

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        • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

          @M-Schrijver
          As I mentioned earlier, I am not very interested in waypoints or POIs on my navigation screen. I rarely look at it and when I do look at the screen I just want to be able to quickly see how my route is going. I know my route and I don't need the navi to find a lunch or coffee location. I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me. My breaks are unplanned. I am also in the comfortable position that my motorcycle has a large tank and I do not easily run out of fuel. And that also applies to my (current) traveling companions.
          Of course, this will be very different if you are going on a tour for a group, because there will probably be people who need all that information.
          πŸ˜€ And I'll probably want that information when I'm older. But then the navi should probably also tell me why I'm on the bike and where I'm going. Because I keep forgetting that by then. πŸ˜€
          (Please see this comment as a comic note)

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          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Specific Track v Route question exporting to tomtom go app:

          I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me.

          I totally agree with that mindset. πŸ‘

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            OK - as I have some experienced users and after having played a bit more and watched a few videos, I am left with a question, in view of the fact that when importing to tomtom it becomes a track and therfore loses its waypoints, I am left wondering why you might use so many when planning in MRA (and for example the option to expand the number of waypoints)

            I guess the answer may be to brute force your sat nav to following the exact route as planned in MRA?
            But then if I am planning on the tomtom map in MRA and using the same settings in totom go on my ios phone would it not follow the same route anyway

            Thanks.!

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            • big-vernundefined big-vern

              OK - as I have some experienced users and after having played a bit more and watched a few videos, I am left with a question, in view of the fact that when importing to tomtom it becomes a track and therfore loses its waypoints, I am left wondering why you might use so many when planning in MRA (and for example the option to expand the number of waypoints)

              I guess the answer may be to brute force your sat nav to following the exact route as planned in MRA?
              But then if I am planning on the tomtom map in MRA and using the same settings in totom go on my ios phone would it not follow the same route anyway

              Thanks.!

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              @Grahame-Lancaster
              A route and a track are two different things.
              When using a route. You will using the TomTom routing algoritmes to calculate a route from point to point. When you use enough points in a route. The route will be identical. When you use to few points, the route can be different.

              When using a track. There is no calculation algoritme involved. TomTom Go just follows the track. With only one note. When importing a track in TomTom Go it will move the track line to existing roads. In theory this can causes some difference between the software you created the route in and TomTom GO. Normally when you create in MRA a route on the TomTom map Both MRA and TomTom Go are the same.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                @Grahame-Lancaster
                A route and a track are two different things.
                When using a route. You will using the TomTom routing algoritmes to calculate a route from point to point. When you use enough points in a route. The route will be identical. When you use to few points, the route can be different.

                When using a track. There is no calculation algoritme involved. TomTom Go just follows the track. With only one note. When importing a track in TomTom Go it will move the track line to existing roads. In theory this can causes some difference between the software you created the route in and TomTom GO. Normally when you create in MRA a route on the TomTom map Both MRA and TomTom Go are the same.

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                @M-Schrijver I kinda understand the differenc between route and track I think, but in tutorial videos, there has been the use of waypoints and expanding waypoints when using the tomtom map in MRA, if it gets converted to a track why bother. ?

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                • big-vernundefined big-vern

                  @M-Schrijver I kinda understand the differenc between route and track I think, but in tutorial videos, there has been the use of waypoints and expanding waypoints when using the tomtom map in MRA, if it gets converted to a track why bother. ?

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                  @Grahame-Lancaster
                  To ensure that the route in MRA does not change when it is closed and/or reopened. That can happen due to various reasons.
                  Try to place as few waypoints as possible but as many as necessary. Consider, for example, places where the planner could take an unwanted "shortcut" or otherwise alternative route.

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                  • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                    @Grahame-Lancaster
                    To ensure that the route in MRA does not change when it is closed and/or reopened. That can happen due to various reasons.
                    Try to place as few waypoints as possible but as many as necessary. Consider, for example, places where the planner could take an unwanted "shortcut" or otherwise alternative route.

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                    @Jack-van-Tilburg ah, thank you, that explains it.

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                      My opnion.
                      Just use tracks in TomTom Go. If a road is closed or some other rerouting, sometimes TomTom Go fixes this in advance (you won't notice this). Other times just follow the signs and TomTom will follow you and tries to guide you back to the original route (track).

                      Waypoints don't add much functionality to your route compared to a track in TomTom Go.

                      In case of TomTom, the of waypoints in MRA (hand shape) doesn't have any functionality. Use only the shaping points (drop shape) the shape your route.

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                        @M-Schrijver
                        As I mentioned earlier, I am not very interested in waypoints or POIs on my navigation screen. I rarely look at it and when I do look at the screen I just want to be able to quickly see how my route is going. I know my route and I don't need the navi to find a lunch or coffee location. I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me. My breaks are unplanned. I am also in the comfortable position that my motorcycle has a large tank and I do not easily run out of fuel. And that also applies to my (current) traveling companions.
                        Of course, this will be very different if you are going on a tour for a group, because there will probably be people who need all that information.
                        πŸ˜€ And I'll probably want that information when I'm older. But then the navi should probably also tell me why I'm on the bike and where I'm going. Because I keep forgetting that by then. πŸ˜€
                        (Please see this comment as a comic note)

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                        @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Specific Track v Route question exporting to tomtom go app:

                        I know my route and I don't need the navi to find a lunch or coffee location. I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me. My breaks are unplanned. I am also in the comfortable position that my motorcycle has a large tank and I do not easily run out of fuel.

                        Sounds like you don't need navigation at all πŸ˜‰

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Specific Track v Route question exporting to tomtom go app:

                          I know my route and I don't need the navi to find a lunch or coffee location. I stop when I feel like it and start riding again when it suits me. My breaks are unplanned. I am also in the comfortable position that my motorcycle has a large tank and I do not easily run out of fuel.

                          Sounds like you don't need navigation at all πŸ˜‰

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                          @Con-Hennekens
                          Yes I do. I don't have a swimming diploma because I get lost even in the swimmingpool πŸ˜€

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                          • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                            @Con-Hennekens
                            Yes I do. I don't have a swimming diploma because I get lost even in the swimmingpool πŸ˜€

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                            @Jack-van-Tilburg, Okay, good to have a real waterproof navigation device then 🀣

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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