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Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding

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  • dungbeetleundefined Offline
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    dungbeetle
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    Hi everyone,
    Please see the attached picture below.

    Whilst out riding I encountered a road block (red) which prevented the original 12, 13, 14 waypoint route from being taken.

    I couldn't figure out how to reroute along the alternative (green) route shown.

    Things I tried:

    1. Select and drag point 13 onto the green route road. Did not work, it could not be moved. I could only delete point 13. That might have worked in this case routing directly to 14, but I wanted to add a new waypoint 13 on the new green route as just skipping a waypoint may not always take the desired new route to 14.
    2. Add a new waypoint on the green route road. This created an incorrectly numbered and out of sequence waypoint which could not be reordered in the waypoints list on the mobile app. (I know this can be done on the PC version when planning.)

    Does anyone know how to make this kind of course correction on the phone app whilst out riding? Is there a way to either drag and relocate an existing waypoint, or create a new 'in sequence' waypoint after deleting the old one?

    Thanks for any suggestions you might have.

    Road block example.png

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    • dungbeetleundefined dungbeetle

      Hi everyone,
      Please see the attached picture below.

      Whilst out riding I encountered a road block (red) which prevented the original 12, 13, 14 waypoint route from being taken.

      I couldn't figure out how to reroute along the alternative (green) route shown.

      Things I tried:

      1. Select and drag point 13 onto the green route road. Did not work, it could not be moved. I could only delete point 13. That might have worked in this case routing directly to 14, but I wanted to add a new waypoint 13 on the new green route as just skipping a waypoint may not always take the desired new route to 14.
      2. Add a new waypoint on the green route road. This created an incorrectly numbered and out of sequence waypoint which could not be reordered in the waypoints list on the mobile app. (I know this can be done on the PC version when planning.)

      Does anyone know how to make this kind of course correction on the phone app whilst out riding? Is there a way to either drag and relocate an existing waypoint, or create a new 'in sequence' waypoint after deleting the old one?

      Thanks for any suggestions you might have.

      Road block example.png

      Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @dungbeetle, The easiest way for this is NOT to add or drag waypoints, but to skip to WP 14. I think you disabled the "upcoming waypoint" tile in your screenlayout settings. Tap that tile to skip a waypoint. Or longpress waypoint 14 to continue from there.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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        @dungbeetle assuming you were already past wp12, skipping 13 & 14 should have sent you up the green route.

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • Nomko Nomdenundefined Offline
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          #4

          As mentioned by @RetiredWingMan, keep the route as it is and set waypoints 13 and 14 to Skip, see red arrow screenshot and my apologies for having this menu in Dutch.

          I've had similar issues on routes i edited/created, by using the Skip command/mode you can straighten out a route.

          690a026e-70c9-4dfa-bd28-3e2c7be5dac8-image.png

          | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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          • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

            As mentioned by @RetiredWingMan, keep the route as it is and set waypoints 13 and 14 to Skip, see red arrow screenshot and my apologies for having this menu in Dutch.

            I've had similar issues on routes i edited/created, by using the Skip command/mode you can straighten out a route.

            690a026e-70c9-4dfa-bd28-3e2c7be5dac8-image.png

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            Con Hennekens
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            wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
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            @Nomko-Nomden, for that you need the planning platform, so you would need to stop Navigation, and is hardly something you would do on the road. Besides that, it will only draw straight routelines from 12 to 13, and 13 to 14. Not exactly a solution. Besides the besides, the Navigation does not support the skipping of waypoints that way (yet). So it will still route you over WP 13 😉

            @RetiredWingMan said in Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding:

            assuming you were already past wp12, skipping 13 & 14 should have sent you up the green route.

            That depends where 15 is, I can't see that in the screenshot since the routeline goes both directions 😉

            Anyways: just driving up the green road would eventually lead to auto-skip WP 13, if you use that feature, and else you need to skip it manually.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            • dungbeetleundefined Offline
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              dungbeetle
              wrote on last edited by dungbeetle
              #6

              Many thanks to all for your replies. 👍

              The ability to plot a quick diversion on the fly whilst travelling would be a great addition. 🙂

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              • dungbeetleundefined dungbeetle

                Many thanks to all for your replies. 👍

                The ability to plot a quick diversion on the fly whilst travelling would be a great addition. 🙂

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                #7

                @dungbeetle said in Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding:

                The ability to plot a quick diversion on the fly whilst travelling would be a great addition.

                You can do that in two different ways:

                • longpress any point on the map to ad it as a waypoint.
                • go into the menu (3 dots) and choose "add stopover" (or whatever the second option is called in English 😉 )

                In both scenarios the app will try to place the new waypoint logically between the existing ones.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @dungbeetle said in Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding:

                  The ability to plot a quick diversion on the fly whilst travelling would be a great addition.

                  You can do that in two different ways:

                  • longpress any point on the map to ad it as a waypoint.
                  • go into the menu (3 dots) and choose "add stopover" (or whatever the second option is called in English 😉 )

                  In both scenarios the app will try to place the new waypoint logically between the existing ones.

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                  @Con-Hennekens interesting that you can long press on the map to add a waypoint ... but you can't long press on the planned route to add an extra waypoint on route. That seems to be tied up or reserved for skipping waypoints.

                  2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                  • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                    @Con-Hennekens interesting that you can long press on the map to add a waypoint ... but you can't long press on the planned route to add an extra waypoint on route. That seems to be tied up or reserved for skipping waypoints.

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                    @RetiredWingMan. indeed, I have not noticed that before. But why would you want to add a waypoint at a location you are already passing? I have not tried, but I am convinced that you can add such a waypoint through the search function though.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Nomko-Nomden, for that you need the planning platform, so you would need to stop Navigation, and is hardly something you would do on the road. Besides that, it will only draw straight routelines from 12 to 13, and 13 to 14. Not exactly a solution. Besides the besides, the Navigation does not support the skipping of waypoints that way (yet). So it will still route you over WP 13 😉

                      @RetiredWingMan said in Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding:

                      assuming you were already past wp12, skipping 13 & 14 should have sent you up the green route.

                      That depends where 15 is, I can't see that in the screenshot since the routeline goes both directions 😉

                      Anyways: just driving up the green road would eventually lead to auto-skip WP 13, if you use that feature, and else you need to skip it manually.

                      Nomko Nomdenundefined Offline
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                      @Con-Hennekens said in Rerouting around a road block whilst out riding:

                      @Nomko-Nomden, for that you need the planning platform

                      Ja tuurlijk! Kan niet in de app 😉

                      | MRA Gold Member | Routelab + HERE kaart | Garmin Zumo XT | BMW K1200GT | Kawasaki Z650 |

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                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                        @RetiredWingMan. indeed, I have not noticed that before. But why would you want to add a waypoint at a location you are already passing? I have not tried, but I am convinced that you can add such a waypoint through the search function though.

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                        @Con-Hennekens my thought was that, as in the example about, to get around a blockage, you may want to skip one or more points and add a point to assist with getting around the blockage.

                        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                        • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                          @Con-Hennekens my thought was that, as in the example about, to get around a blockage, you may want to skip one or more points and add a point to assist with getting around the blockage.

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                          @RetiredWingMan, yes, but when the route is already recalculated over an alternative road, adding a waypoint to that alternative road it has already chosen is not really meaningful. Of you want to force a recalculation over a different road, that is possible given the existing features.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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