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  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

    @Jack-van-Tilburg Same issue here (latest software versions): when selecting an item, the actions box pops up very briefly.

    I've looked into the code a bit, stepping through it in the debugger, and I've noticed the pop-up becomes visible when, on line 473 of base.js, the CSS class "in" is added to the ".explorer-selectedactions" block. However, it immediately becomes invisible again as well, when stepping over this line. I can only assume a different part of the code reacts to the addition of the "in" class and changes the CSS to make the pop-up invisible, or perhaps the z-index isn't handled correctly by Apple. The "in" class is on the box when inspecting the element.

    Screenshot 2023-10-23 at 11.58.13.png

    Just noticed it also popups very briefly when deselecting a previously selected row.

    It only happens when selecting the first (or deselecting the last) item.

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    #14

    @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do?

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    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

      @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do?

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      #15

      @Rob-Verhoeff If so, that has to be a very recent development (worked just fine last time I checked). And I would expect to see some error message in that case. Also, it isn't really a "pop-up" pop-up as far as I can see.

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      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

        @Jack-van-Tilburg said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

        I didn't email Apple. It was an MRA service ticket.

        Okay, hoping MRA solves it for us... 😉

        A bit offtopic: I use Firefox now as a crossplatform browser with all my favorites at hand. And it has some nice plugin's. Regarding safety, I think all "major" browsers have that in order.

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        @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

        Regarding safety, I think all "major" browsers have that in order

        You think that Google spyware is safe?

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/20/stop-using-google-chrome-on-apple-iphone-12-pro-max-ipad-and-macbook-pro/?sh=69a169514d08

        https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chrome-use-subject-to-restrictions-in-dutch-schools-over-data-security-concerns/

        It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

          @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

          Regarding safety, I think all "major" browsers have that in order

          You think that Google spyware is safe?

          https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/20/stop-using-google-chrome-on-apple-iphone-12-pro-max-ipad-and-macbook-pro/?sh=69a169514d08

          https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chrome-use-subject-to-restrictions-in-dutch-schools-over-data-security-concerns/

          Con Hennekensundefined Online
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          Alpha tester
          wrote on last edited by
          #17

          @Drabslab, Apple warning for data gathering by Google is rather funny, don't you think? 🤣

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Drabslab, Apple warning for data gathering by Google is rather funny, don't you think? 🤣

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            @Con-Hennekens

            Yes, a typical example of a kettle accusing the pot from being black.

            But it remains a fact that the majority of concerns expressed by governments on privacy, security and spying on users are about two compnaies with Google being one of them.

            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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            • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

              @Con-Hennekens

              Yes, a typical example of a kettle accusing the pot from being black.

              But it remains a fact that the majority of concerns expressed by governments on privacy, security and spying on users are about two compnaies with Google being one of them.

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              #19

              @Drabslab, certainly true, but I think it's about more than 2 companies. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and many many more companies are no popes in the subject.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Drabslab, certainly true, but I think it's about more than 2 companies. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and many many more companies are no popes in the subject.

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                @Con-Hennekens

                there is a main difference:

                • Users are clients in the case of Microsoft, and Apple,

                • they are the product sold to other companies in case of Google and Facebook

                It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @Drabslab, certainly true, but I think it's about more than 2 companies. Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta and many many more companies are no popes in the subject.

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                  @Con-Hennekens

                  and there is a difference between "not being a pope" and being fined 8.3 billion euro for slightly illegal activities 🙂 🙂 🙂

                  It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                    @Con-Hennekens

                    and there is a difference between "not being a pope" and being fined 8.3 billion euro for slightly illegal activities 🙂 🙂 🙂

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                    wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                    #22

                    @Drabslab, I believe Apple is still subject to a 39 billion fine... 😉
                    Oh, and do you really think Apple does NOT sell off bigdata? Users are clients indeed, AND the product at the same time. I am not downplaying the privacy problems. But don't pin them just on Google and Facebook. The other are equally evil...

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Drabslab, I believe Apple is still subject to a 39 billion fine... 😉
                      Oh, and do you really think Apple does NOT sell off bigdata? Users are clients indeed, AND the product at the same time. I am not downplaying the privacy problems. But don't pin them just on Google and Facebook. The other are equally evil...

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                      #23

                      @Con-Hennekens said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                      The other are equally evil..

                      turn to the dark side.... we have coockies 🙂

                      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                      • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                        Maybe this will help.

                        https://youtu.be/cOEGPExqgTU

                        By clicking on a folder, the box just flashes and disappears.

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                        @Jörgen
                        Yep. That's what it actually looks like.
                        Big thanks for this video!

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                        • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                          @Jack-van-Tilburg Same issue here (latest software versions): when selecting an item, the actions box pops up very briefly.

                          I've looked into the code a bit, stepping through it in the debugger, and I've noticed the pop-up becomes visible when, on line 473 of base.js, the CSS class "in" is added to the ".explorer-selectedactions" block. However, it immediately becomes invisible again as well, when stepping over this line. I can only assume a different part of the code reacts to the addition of the "in" class and changes the CSS to make the pop-up invisible, or perhaps the z-index isn't handled correctly by Apple. The "in" class is on the box when inspecting the element.

                          Screenshot 2023-10-23 at 11.58.13.png

                          Just noticed it also popups very briefly when deselecting a previously selected row.

                          It only happens when selecting the first (or deselecting the last) item.

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                          #25

                          @Herko-ter-Horst said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                          I've looked into the code a bit

                          This is beyond my knowledge 🙂
                          But hopefully the technicians can do something with it 👍

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                          • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                            @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do?

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                            #26

                            @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                            @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do

                            That's definitely true. But Safari also offers the option to cancel the pop-up blocker in the settings.

                            Scherm­afbeelding 2023-10-24 om 17.44.51.png

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @Jörgen said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                              Maybe this will help.
                              https://youtu.be/cOEGPExqgTU

                              The video seems to be private, I can't watch it.

                              42b55c47-5bc8-41b0-9cb5-715cd67d52cb-image.png

                              @Jack-van-Tilburg said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                              It is up to the developer to make the application function browser independently. And I know that's difficult.

                              It's up to the developer of a browser to make it compliant too. All software contains bugs. It's too easy pointing only at MRA, while Safari seems to be the only browser having this problem. Although of course it still may be an MRA bug, it is as easy to point it to the Safari browser.

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                              @Con-Hennekens said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                              It's up to the developer of a browser to make it compliant

                              That is absolutely correct.
                              For that reason, beta versions are made available to developers well in advance so that they can test whether their stuff still works. If there are issues, then something must be done. And depending on the test result you can determine where that is.

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                              • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                                @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                Regarding safety, I think all "major" browsers have that in order

                                You think that Google spyware is safe?

                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/03/20/stop-using-google-chrome-on-apple-iphone-12-pro-max-ipad-and-macbook-pro/?sh=69a169514d08

                                https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chrome-use-subject-to-restrictions-in-dutch-schools-over-data-security-concerns/

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                                #28

                                @Drabslab said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                You think that Google spyware is safe?

                                Well, in that case... I'm glad I said "I think...". So I guess not 😁

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                                iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                                Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                                Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                                • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                                  @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                  @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do

                                  That's definitely true. But Safari also offers the option to cancel the pop-up blocker in the settings.

                                  Scherm­afbeelding 2023-10-24 om 17.44.51.png

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                                  #29

                                  @Jack-van-Tilburg said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                  @Rob-Verhoeff said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                  @Herko-ter-Horst perhaps Safari is more strict in the handling of those pop-ups then other browsers do

                                  That's definitely true. But Safari also offers the option to cancel the pop-up blocker in the settings.

                                  Scherm­afbeelding 2023-10-24 om 17.44.51.png

                                  As I expected, this changes nothing w.r.t. this issue. From what I can see, it's not an actual pop-up.

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                                  • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                                    Who recognizes this and knows the solution?
                                    When using the checkbox to select multiple items in the personal library for an action <Move|Save as|Delete>, a pop-up will appear to activate that action.
                                    On my iPad (7th gen), iPadOS 17.03 and on my MacBook (M1Pro) with MacOs Sonoma 14.0 in combination with Safari 17.0, the Pop-up flashes but disappears in a fraction of a second and cannot be used. I have set all settings in Safari for additional functions for Myrouteapp to "Allow". Without exception.
                                    When using Firefox I do not have this issue. But I want to use Safari exclusively.

                                    pop-up -Move-Save as-Delete-.png

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                                    @Jack-van-Tilburg said in pop-up <Move-Save as-Delete> doesn't show:

                                    I switched back to my favorite browser Safari and now see that this issue has been resolved.
                                    Unfortunately, a new problem has arisen. But I still have to work up the courage to describe that.

                                    Who recognizes this and knows the solution?
                                    When using the checkbox to select multiple items in the personal library for an action <Move|Save as|Delete>, a pop-up will appear to activate that action.
                                    On my iPad (7th gen), iPadOS 17.03 and on my MacBook (M1Pro) with MacOs Sonoma 14.0 in combination with Safari 17.0, the Pop-up flashes but disappears in a fraction of a second and cannot be used. I have set all settings in Safari for additional functions for Myrouteapp to "Allow". Without exception.
                                    When using Firefox I do not have this issue. But I want to use Safari exclusively.

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