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  • richtea999 Offline
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    richtea999
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    wrote on last edited by richtea999
    #56

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

    @Stanisław Thanks for the feedback!

    The fuel station is shown when:

    • Next maneuver is more than 7500 meters aways
    • OR: fuel station is within 1500 meters

    So a fuel station that happens to be on the same junction that you're about to turn right on 200m away, for example, wins over the junction instruction?

    i.e. get directed into fuel station, fill up, and next instruction is - immediately turn right.

    (I'm not suggesting its bad logic or anything - just checking I understand correctly 🙂 ).

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    • richtea999 richtea999

      @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

      @Stanisław Thanks for the feedback!

      The fuel station is shown when:

      • Next maneuver is more than 7500 meters aways
      • OR: fuel station is within 1500 meters

      So a fuel station that happens to be on the same junction that you're about to turn right on 200m away, for example, wins over the junction instruction?

      i.e. get directed into fuel station, fill up, and next instruction is - immediately turn right.

      (I'm not suggesting its bad logic or anything - just checking I understand correctly 🙂 ).

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      Corjan Meijerink
      Developer
      wrote on last edited by
      #57

      @richtea999 yes, that's correct!

      If you are however approaching the fuel station (when added), we won't suggest any other fuel stations (only after passing the one added). This means that you will then see the next instruction again.

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      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

        @richtea999 yes, that's correct!

        If you are however approaching the fuel station (when added), we won't suggest any other fuel stations (only after passing the one added). This means that you will then see the next instruction again.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #58

        @Corjan-Meijerink all the concern about fuel stops seems a little strange to me. I always plan fuel stops as part of my route planning... based on the fuel needs of those traveling with me. Still, feature seems to be very useful to a lot of people. I just wish the POI information in HERE was more accurate. Great progress on the app.

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • RetiredWingMan RetiredWingMan

          @Corjan-Meijerink all the concern about fuel stops seems a little strange to me. I always plan fuel stops as part of my route planning... based on the fuel needs of those traveling with me. Still, feature seems to be very useful to a lot of people. I just wish the POI information in HERE was more accurate. Great progress on the app.

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          #59

          @Doug-Robinson thanks!
          That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

          On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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          • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

            @Doug-Robinson thanks!
            That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

            On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #60

            @Corjan-Meijerink Fuel station is not just a place to fill up, it is also a toilet, coffee etc, so it's hard to plan all these things in advance 🙂 I plan a stop ad hoc, especially on a higway, by looking at the nearest station or the next one - the decision is made on the fly, without stopping, that's why the info about two nearest stations could be useful. Anyway thanks for the modification, it is of for sure a step in the good direction 🙂

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            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

              @Doug-Robinson thanks!
              That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

              On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #61

              @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

              On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel

              Really, how much fuel do you have on board?

              It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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              • Drabslab Drabslab

                @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel

                Really, how much fuel do you have on board?

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                Developer
                wrote on last edited by
                #62

                @Drabslab 30 liter.

                I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                That's not however my average driving style 😉

                But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

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                • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                  @Drabslab 30 liter.

                  I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                  That's not however my average driving style 😉

                  But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #63

                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                  @Drabslab 30 liter.

                  I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                  That's not however my average driving style 😉

                  But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

                  blimy, my KTM needs 5.6 liters per 100km with my average driving style. With a full tank, the dashboard claims that I can do 390km but that never happens

                  It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                  • Drabslab Drabslab

                    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                    @Drabslab 30 liter.

                    I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                    That's not however my average driving style 😉

                    But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

                    blimy, my KTM needs 5.6 liters per 100km with my average driving style. With a full tank, the dashboard claims that I can do 390km but that never happens

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #64

                    @Drabslab Nice, My Street Triple manages only 230 km or so before the light comes on. It might me my driving style. 😋

                    Manks bu'j te bange.

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                    • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom I've changed the configuration to show up to 750m before the exit.

                      Lane information should have been displayed in Android Auto! 🙂
                      Fuel stops on your route are not suggested by Android Auto, only within the app itself.

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                      Marinus van Deudekom
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #65

                      @Corjan-Meijerink thnkx Corjan. The lane assist was not visible on the radio. At least not in the way it was on my phone

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT sold
                      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Flat Twin Therapy Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #66

                        Impressive results in these new releases!
                        Congratulations!!

                        Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

                        A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
                        hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

                        Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                        https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                        • Flat Twin Therapy Flat Twin Therapy

                          Impressive results in these new releases!
                          Congratulations!!

                          Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

                          A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
                          hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

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                          wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                          #67

                          @Rolf-Aalders

                          I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
                          Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
                          It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
                          I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

                          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                            @Rolf-Aalders

                            I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
                            Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
                            It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
                            I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

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                            #68

                            @Lynchy67 yeah, I agree. This is tough. Waze, Google maps, Here, Locus maps and even Komoot all give my phone a positive charge.... So it is possible.
                            I prefer MRA, but cannot use it for navigation >60m due to battery drain.

                            Actually, only negative charge when navigating (so locus maps should not be listed here).
                            Using MRA to just track my rides does give a position charge.

                            Hoping on a fix 🙂
                            If I can help in any way (sharing logs, special or debuggable build, etc) please let me know.

                            Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                            https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                              wrote on last edited by Jörgen
                              #69

                              How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                              POI support
                              Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                              The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                              9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                              • Jörgen Jörgen

                                How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                                POI support
                                Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                                The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                                9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #70

                                @Jörgen Exactly as described 😉
                                You only see the POI's added in the Routeplanner.
                                After that, if you want to actively navigate to it, long press the POI.

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                                • Jörgen Jörgen

                                  How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                                  POI support
                                  Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                                  The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                                  9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                                  wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                                  #71

                                  @Jörgen, on the planning map, enable a POI category. If you see a POI on the map, click it and click this symbol to add it to your route:

                                  7746c884-c234-44e1-857f-6e439317c897-image.png

                                  Add it as a POI (adding it as a waypoint immediately routes through it) in the next window.

                                  92147e8a-62fe-4ee1-bdae-70affd4e5034-image.png

                                  This POI will be visible while driving the route, and by long-pressing it you can add it to the route.

                                  579d836c-d89d-49a3-9a21-4b85fa83d224-image.png

                                  Now you can add multiple possible lunch spots as POI to your route, and choose the most convenient one during your ride.

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                    👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                    Thank you!

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                                    • Jörgen Jörgen

                                      👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                      Thank you!

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                                      @Jörgen, you are welcome. Educational for many I think 😉

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                                      • Jörgen Jörgen

                                        👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                        Thank you!

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                                        @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

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                                        • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

                                          @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Nick-Carthew, entirely true! Corjan foresaw that too, and made pressing somewhere on the chart (the place where you are likely to park) as easy as pressing the POI itself 😉

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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