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  • Stanisławundefined Stanisław

    @Corjan-Meijerink I did a short test during the weekend. The next fuel station seems very good but it is sometimes replaced by the next turn sign. I tried to catch the rule but I couldn't. In my opinion next turn could be shown let's say 500 meters before the nearest turn. Fuel station is more important to me. Would be possible to show it permanently below the next turn icon? It would be perfect to have an info about two nearest stations, even instead of the icon.

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    @Stanisław Thanks for the feedback!

    The fuel station is shown when:

    • Next maneuver is more than 7500 meters aways
    • OR: fuel station is within 1500 meters
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      @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

      @Stanisław Thanks for the feedback!

      The fuel station is shown when:

      • Next maneuver is more than 7500 meters aways
      • OR: fuel station is within 1500 meters

      So a fuel station that happens to be on the same junction that you're about to turn right on 200m away, for example, wins over the junction instruction?

      i.e. get directed into fuel station, fill up, and next instruction is - immediately turn right.

      (I'm not suggesting its bad logic or anything - just checking I understand correctly 🙂 ).

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      • richtea999undefined richtea999

        @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

        @Stanisław Thanks for the feedback!

        The fuel station is shown when:

        • Next maneuver is more than 7500 meters aways
        • OR: fuel station is within 1500 meters

        So a fuel station that happens to be on the same junction that you're about to turn right on 200m away, for example, wins over the junction instruction?

        i.e. get directed into fuel station, fill up, and next instruction is - immediately turn right.

        (I'm not suggesting its bad logic or anything - just checking I understand correctly 🙂 ).

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        @richtea999 yes, that's correct!

        If you are however approaching the fuel station (when added), we won't suggest any other fuel stations (only after passing the one added). This means that you will then see the next instruction again.

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

          @richtea999 yes, that's correct!

          If you are however approaching the fuel station (when added), we won't suggest any other fuel stations (only after passing the one added). This means that you will then see the next instruction again.

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          @Corjan-Meijerink all the concern about fuel stops seems a little strange to me. I always plan fuel stops as part of my route planning... based on the fuel needs of those traveling with me. Still, feature seems to be very useful to a lot of people. I just wish the POI information in HERE was more accurate. Great progress on the app.

          2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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          • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

            @Corjan-Meijerink all the concern about fuel stops seems a little strange to me. I always plan fuel stops as part of my route planning... based on the fuel needs of those traveling with me. Still, feature seems to be very useful to a lot of people. I just wish the POI information in HERE was more accurate. Great progress on the app.

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            Corjan Meijerink
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            @Doug-Robinson thanks!
            That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

            On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              @Doug-Robinson thanks!
              That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

              On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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              @Corjan-Meijerink Fuel station is not just a place to fill up, it is also a toilet, coffee etc, so it's hard to plan all these things in advance 🙂 I plan a stop ad hoc, especially on a higway, by looking at the nearest station or the next one - the decision is made on the fly, without stopping, that's why the info about two nearest stations could be useful. Anyway thanks for the modification, it is of for sure a step in the good direction 🙂

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                @Doug-Robinson thanks!
                That’s exactly why this feature can be turned off 😃

                On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel 😉 Let’s just say I don’t ever need a random fuel stop. If I know I’m on a long drive I plan the fuel stop ahead, just like you.

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                @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel

                Really, how much fuel do you have on board?

                It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                  On my Tiger I have nearly 500km range when driving without thinking about saving fuel

                  Really, how much fuel do you have on board?

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @Drabslab 30 liter.

                  I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                  That's not however my average driving style 😉

                  But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                    @Drabslab 30 liter.

                    I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                    That's not however my average driving style 😉

                    But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

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                    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                    @Drabslab 30 liter.

                    I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                    That's not however my average driving style 😉

                    But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

                    blimy, my KTM needs 5.6 liters per 100km with my average driving style. With a full tank, the dashboard claims that I can do 390km but that never happens

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

                      @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                      @Drabslab 30 liter.

                      I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
                      That's not however my average driving style 😉

                      But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

                      blimy, my KTM needs 5.6 liters per 100km with my average driving style. With a full tank, the dashboard claims that I can do 390km but that never happens

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                      @Drabslab Nice, My Street Triple manages only 230 km or so before the light comes on. It might me my driving style. 😋

                      Manks bu'j te bange.

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom I've changed the configuration to show up to 750m before the exit.

                        Lane information should have been displayed in Android Auto! 🙂
                        Fuel stops on your route are not suggested by Android Auto, only within the app itself.

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                        @Corjan-Meijerink thnkx Corjan. The lane assist was not visible on the radio. At least not in the way it was on my phone

                        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                        Honda Silverwing GL 650
                        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                          Impressive results in these new releases!
                          Congratulations!!

                          Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

                          A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
                          hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

                          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                          • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Flat Twin Therapy

                            Impressive results in these new releases!
                            Congratulations!!

                            Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

                            A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
                            hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

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                            @Rolf-Aalders

                            I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
                            Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
                            It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
                            I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

                            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                            • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                              @Rolf-Aalders

                              I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
                              Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
                              It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
                              I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

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                              @Lynchy67 yeah, I agree. This is tough. Waze, Google maps, Here, Locus maps and even Komoot all give my phone a positive charge.... So it is possible.
                              I prefer MRA, but cannot use it for navigation >60m due to battery drain.

                              Actually, only negative charge when navigating (so locus maps should not be listed here).
                              Using MRA to just track my rides does give a position charge.

                              Hoping on a fix 🙂
                              If I can help in any way (sharing logs, special or debuggable build, etc) please let me know.

                              Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                              https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                                #69

                                How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                                POI support
                                Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                                The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

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                                • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                  How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                                  POI support
                                  Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                                  The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                                  9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                                  Corjan Meijerink
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                                  @Jörgen Exactly as described 😉
                                  You only see the POI's added in the Routeplanner.
                                  After that, if you want to actively navigate to it, long press the POI.

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                                  • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                    How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                                    POI support
                                    Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                                    The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                                    9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                                    #71

                                    @Jörgen, on the planning map, enable a POI category. If you see a POI on the map, click it and click this symbol to add it to your route:

                                    7746c884-c234-44e1-857f-6e439317c897-image.png

                                    Add it as a POI (adding it as a waypoint immediately routes through it) in the next window.

                                    92147e8a-62fe-4ee1-bdae-70affd4e5034-image.png

                                    This POI will be visible while driving the route, and by long-pressing it you can add it to the route.

                                    579d836c-d89d-49a3-9a21-4b85fa83d224-image.png

                                    Now you can add multiple possible lunch spots as POI to your route, and choose the most convenient one during your ride.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                      👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                      Thank you!

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                                      • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                        👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                        Thank you!

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                                        @Jörgen, you are welcome. Educational for many I think 😉

                                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                        • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                                          👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                                          Thank you!

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                                          @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

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