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  • Jörgen
    Jörgen
    Jörgen
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    wrote last edited by Jörgen
    #1

    Hi,
    I had my first ride today with the new Android version to the Dutch mountains.
    And I had some problems.
    1.
    I started at home with navigation and had a stop at the post office.
    I had to park behind the house when I turned my bike to go back on track.
    The navigation automatically switched from the next waypoint 2 to the final waypoint 26.
    So my 5-hour ride finished in 2 min.

    screenshot180.jpg

    Ok, I drove on the same route, but how did that happen?

    To be continued.

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    • Hubert Thoring
      Hubert Thoring
      Hubert Thoring
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      wrote last edited by
      #2

      The contribution:

      This is part of the beta test MRA Routenplanner Next...

      And maybe the setting on WP was skipped automatically....

      VG Hubert
      Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
      iPad 9. Gen iOS 27.0.1/ iPhone 16e iOS 27.0.1/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.10 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

      Marinus van Deudekom 1 Reply Last reply
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      • Jörgen
        Jörgen
        Jörgen
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        wrote last edited by
        #3

        Sorry wrong forum area, please move.

        Hardware
        iPhone 12 pro (iOS 26.2.1)
        iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
        Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
        Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
        Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
        MRA Workshops in Deutsch sind hier zu finden

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        • Hubert Thoring Hubert Thoring

          The contribution:

          This is part of the beta test MRA Routenplanner Next...

          And maybe the setting on WP was skipped automatically....

          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          RouteXpert
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @Hubert-Thoring it can't happen that all those points were skipped automatically. Must be something else

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT sold
          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew moved this topic from [Web] Problems, Bugs and other Issues
          • Jörgen Jörgen

            Hi,
            I had my first ride today with the new Android version to the Dutch mountains.
            And I had some problems.
            1.
            I started at home with navigation and had a stop at the post office.
            I had to park behind the house when I turned my bike to go back on track.
            The navigation automatically switched from the next waypoint 2 to the final waypoint 26.
            So my 5-hour ride finished in 2 min.

            screenshot180.jpg

            Ok, I drove on the same route, but how did that happen?

            To be continued.

            Stefan Hummelink
            Stefan Hummelink
            Stefan Hummelink
            Alpha tester
            wrote last edited by Stefan Hummelink
            #5

            @Jörgen So if I understand correctly:

            • You drive from (via)point 1 to the red circle...
            • Then you drove back to viapoint 1 to park behind your house and drop of the thing you picked up...
            • Then when you got back to your bike to ride the route you found it had skipped to (via)point 26...

            If so, I think the auto skip algorithm determined that after a certain time of driving from the red circle back to (via)point 1, that you did NOT intend to drive the remaining part of the route and concluded through some programmed logic, that (via)point 26 was the next one to go to.

            This is a typical edge case of something that practically will not occur very often. My question is though: if you intended to drive back to your house in the first place, why not start the route when you were to leave the house for the 2nd time? 😉 It is sort of challenging the auto skip algorithm in a unrealistic way haha.

            Please note that my analysis is based solely on my assumptions that I started my reply with. 😀

            Manks bu'j te bange.

            Jörgen 1 Reply Last reply
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            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink moved this topic from [App-Beta] Problems, Bugs and other Issues
            • Stefan Hummelink Stefan Hummelink

              @Jörgen So if I understand correctly:

              • You drive from (via)point 1 to the red circle...
              • Then you drove back to viapoint 1 to park behind your house and drop of the thing you picked up...
              • Then when you got back to your bike to ride the route you found it had skipped to (via)point 26...

              If so, I think the auto skip algorithm determined that after a certain time of driving from the red circle back to (via)point 1, that you did NOT intend to drive the remaining part of the route and concluded through some programmed logic, that (via)point 26 was the next one to go to.

              This is a typical edge case of something that practically will not occur very often. My question is though: if you intended to drive back to your house in the first place, why not start the route when you were to leave the house for the 2nd time? 😉 It is sort of challenging the auto skip algorithm in a unrealistic way haha.

              Please note that my analysis is based solely on my assumptions that I started my reply with. 😀

              Jörgen
              Jörgen
              Jörgen
              Valued contributor
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @Stefan-Hummelink sagte:

              @Jörgen So if I understand correctly:

              • You drive from (via)point 1 to the red circle...
              • Then you drove back to viapoint 1 to park behind your house and drop of the thing you picked up...
              • Then when you got back to your bike to ride the route you found it had skipped to (via)point 26...

              If so, I think the auto skip algorithm determined that after a certain time of driving from the red circle back to (via)point 1, that you did NOT intend to drive the remaining part of the route and concluded through some programmed logic, that (via)point 26 was the next one to go to.

              This is a typical edge case of something that practically will not occur very often. My question is though: if you intended to drive back to your house in the first place, why not start the route when you were to leave the house for the 2nd time? 😉 It is sort of challenging the auto skip algorithm in a unrealistic way haha.

              Please note that my analysis is based solely on my assumptions that I started my reply with. 😀

              No, I drove from WP 1 to the red circle (Post Office) because it was on the route anyway, parked behind the post office (about 10m from the main street), and drove back to main street on the assumption that I would then continue further to the left towards WP 2.
              Then Navigation Next switched to WP 26.

              Auto skip is switched off.

              Hardware
              iPhone 12 pro (iOS 26.2.1)
              iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
              Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
              Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
              Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
              MRA Workshops in Deutsch sind hier zu finden

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              • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                @Hubert-Thoring it can't happen that all those points were skipped automatically. Must be something else

                Jörgen
                Jörgen
                Jörgen
                Valued contributor
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                @Marinus-van-Deudekom sagte:

                @Hubert-Thoring it can't happen that all those points were skipped automatically. Must be something else

                May be. I try to understand.

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                iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
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                • Jörgen Jörgen

                  @Stefan-Hummelink sagte:

                  @Jörgen So if I understand correctly:

                  • You drive from (via)point 1 to the red circle...
                  • Then you drove back to viapoint 1 to park behind your house and drop of the thing you picked up...
                  • Then when you got back to your bike to ride the route you found it had skipped to (via)point 26...

                  If so, I think the auto skip algorithm determined that after a certain time of driving from the red circle back to (via)point 1, that you did NOT intend to drive the remaining part of the route and concluded through some programmed logic, that (via)point 26 was the next one to go to.

                  This is a typical edge case of something that practically will not occur very often. My question is though: if you intended to drive back to your house in the first place, why not start the route when you were to leave the house for the 2nd time? 😉 It is sort of challenging the auto skip algorithm in a unrealistic way haha.

                  Please note that my analysis is based solely on my assumptions that I started my reply with. 😀

                  No, I drove from WP 1 to the red circle (Post Office) because it was on the route anyway, parked behind the post office (about 10m from the main street), and drove back to main street on the assumption that I would then continue further to the left towards WP 2.
                  Then Navigation Next switched to WP 26.

                  Auto skip is switched off.

                  Stefan Hummelink
                  Stefan Hummelink
                  Stefan Hummelink
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  @Jörgen In that case this is something voor mr. C himself to look at! 😉

                  Manks bu'j te bange.

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                  • Jörgen
                    Jörgen
                    Jörgen
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                    wrote last edited by Jörgen
                    #9

                    Hi, I could reproduce the problem. I started the route on iPhone and Android device. When I left the post office i drove back and in the same moment navigation changed from next WP 2 to the last WP.
                    So it is reproducible.

                    iPhone
                    IMG_0719.png

                    Android
                    Screenshot_20261015-153504.png

                    Hardware
                    iPhone 12 pro (iOS 26.2.1)
                    iPad (7.Gen.) 18.7.3
                    Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
                    Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                    Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                    MRA Workshops in Deutsch sind hier zu finden

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                    • Jörgen Jörgen

                      Hi, I could reproduce the problem. I started the route on iPhone and Android device. When I left the post office i drove back and in the same moment navigation changed from next WP 2 to the last WP.
                      So it is reproducible.

                      iPhone
                      IMG_0719.png

                      Android
                      Screenshot_20261015-153504.png

                      LennyO
                      LennyO
                      LennyO
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote last edited by
                      #10

                      @Jörgen Interesting and very weird....
                      BTW, how did you get the V.6 Nav on your Android?
                      I am on the Beta team and would like to test the Nav as well.
                      Thx!

                      Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                      • Jörgen
                        Jörgen
                        Jörgen
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                        wrote last edited by Jörgen
                        #11

                        Hi, do you have any other version? On iOS or Android?

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                        • Hubert Thoring
                          Hubert Thoring
                          Hubert Thoring
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                          wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
                          #12

                          I also tested it:

                          • iOS mobile phone 16e with iOS 27.0.1

                          • MRA V6.0.0 (526)

                          • Route planned in HERE.

                          • WP automatically skip "OFF"

                          • Recalculation "IN"

                          • Route Start

                          So the incident that can be repeated:

                          Started at WP1

                          Then left broken off...

                          After about 250m to the right to the green POI

                          • So leave the route

                          • Then back to the route

                          But now deliberately turned wrong to the left, so not to the right to WP2

                          • The app has indicated after about 50m that WP 2-4 were skipped, and this route made white..?

                          • Next is the target WP5

                          Actually, the app should have told me please turn to get to WP2 ?!?

                          IMG_2499.png

                          After the stop, reported directly here

                          IMG_2497.png

                          VG Hubert
                          Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                          iPad 9. Gen iOS 27.0.1/ iPhone 16e iOS 27.0.1/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.10 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                          • Jörgen
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #13

                            Ok, thanks for confirming.

                            @corjan-meijerink please have a look.

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