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  • Daniel 7undefined Daniel 7

    I think some people here have misunderstood me. My focus is on practicality and on suggesting improvements for the myRoute app. If myRoute doesn't make these changes in the future, there are, after all, alternative routing apps available. I don't need any lectures about glasses.

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    @Daniel-7 said:

    I don't need any lectures about glasses.

    I won't lecture you on glasses, but on mounts instead šŸ˜‰
    A more stable mount could help. Vibrations make text reading more difficult.
    This might be worth exploring for you.

    Making the fontsize customizable is VERY finicky, since we already have to cope with SOOO many different screen sizes, aspects and resolutions. Believe me, it is a bigger puzzle than it sounds...

    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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      Maybe Carpuride, combined with the myRoute app via Android Auto, could be a solution for me... we'll see. In that scenario, however, the myRoute app apparently doesn't offer as many features—at least, that's what I read somewhere. Does anyone have any experience with this?

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        Carpuride with AA certainly does not show the next fuel stop icon.

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          Carpuride with AA certainly does not show the next fuel stop icon.

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          @richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
          It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
          https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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          • Daniel 7undefined Daniel 7

            Last weekend, I rode several routes using the myRoute app—comparing it against my Rider 400 and the Calimoto app—in order to determine the best navigation method for my needs. I navigated solely by following the on-screen instructions, without using headphones inside my helmet.
            In doing so, I found that the font size for the "next turn" indication in the myRoute app is simply too small. On a mobile phone screen, it is almost impossible to make out. Calimoto handles this much better; their turn-by-turn prompts are significantly larger, and I experienced no issues with visibility.
            My request is this: Please adjust the font size for the "next turn" indication—making it at least as large as the street name. 20260524_152538.jpg

            Here is the comparison... much easier to see on Calimoto.
            20260524_152525.jpg

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            @Daniel-7 said:

            without using headphones inside my helmet.

            Haven’t you fitted one, or did you not want to use it to test the font size?

            If you haven’t fitted a headset, I’d rather invest the money in a headset than in a Carpuride.

            AA does work, but there are more settings to adjust, and due to the manufacturer’s restrictions, fewer functions are available – and even then, only via workarounds.

            The app without AA offers more options if you use it natively and works seamlessly.

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            • ErikMatthezingundefined ErikMatthezing

              @BFG said:

              @CD130 said:

              ... Or maybe we’re just at the age where we need reading glasses. šŸ˜„

              Nice point to raise and it shouldn't matter. Reading glasses are for when the focusing muscles in the eyes weaken, which highlights a concern often dismissed by interface designers; you should not need to use refocusing muscles in a vehicle anyway. They are too slow.

              Large font is not just for old people - it's for speed. This is why fighter jets and airliners have Heads-up-displays optically focused at infinity, so the muscles are not needed.

              UI designers want to make the best of available screen space, naturally, but they are usually designing sitting at a desk, not doing 120kph, and it can result in the wrong priorities.

              Most healthy young people will not have a problem with this.

              If your eyes have trouble focusing near or far, it is time for glasses, and that is one of the reasons glasses exist. We can also hardly ask the government to provide all traffic signs with a larger font. Furthermore, some people find a font large enough and others do not; it remains a matter of personal preference.

              HUD is a dream for motorcyclists; I recently read an article that they are actually working on HUD in helmets.

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              @ErikMatthezing said:

              Most healthy young people will not have a problem with this.

              You misunderstand. I'm not referring to an eye problem, it's how all vision works. In a perfectly healthy and young human, like a fighter pilot, refocusing take time. It might be fractions of a second, but it's enough that companies invest hundreds of millions in solving it. It's just that it doesn't normally factor in personal vehicles.

              The situation for personal vehicles is to ensure text is readable in everyone's peripheral vision, without the need to refocus. That is what we do in the vehicle design industry. It's highly documented, e.g.:

              ISO 15008:2017
              ISO 4513
              MIL-M-18012B
              NHTSA Visual-Manual Driver Distraction Guidelines

              There is even a minimum pt size for fonts in the Android Automotive OS Design Guidelines

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
                It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
                https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

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                @Con-Hennekens said:

                @richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
                It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
                https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

                The screenshots of MyRoute-App running on Android Auto—from the link you provided—look very promising. In my opinion, they’ve handled the font size issue exceptionally well there. That could be the ideal solution for me. The only downside is that the Carpuride unfortunately doesn't have a built-in battery. I’m not too keen on that aspect.

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                • Daniel 7undefined Daniel 7

                  @Con-Hennekens said:

                  @richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
                  It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

                  The screenshots of MyRoute-App running on Android Auto—from the link you provided—look very promising. In my opinion, they’ve handled the font size issue exceptionally well there. That could be the ideal solution for me. The only downside is that the Carpuride unfortunately doesn't have a built-in battery. I’m not too keen on that aspect.

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                  @Daniel-7, It's not just promising, it's already available in the last public update šŸ˜‰

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Daniel-7, It's not just promising, it's already available in the last public update šŸ˜‰

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                    @Con-Hennekens said:

                    @Daniel-7, It's not just promising, it's already available in the last public update šŸ˜‰

                    I have been an MRA user for a very long time, and back in the day, I purchased the Lifetime version for both components (the Web Planner and Navigation). Until now, however, I have only used the MRA Web Planner to plan my routes for my TomTom Rider 400. My intention was to use my ruggedized smartphone as an alternative device for MRA Navigation—something I recently put to the test. However, I found that the display showing the distance to the next turn instruction was simply too small on my smartphone screen. I can read this information without any trouble on my TomTom Rider 400, but not when using MRA Navigation on my phone. I have since noticed, though, that this information is displayed in a larger format when using Android Auto. To take advantage of that, however, I would need to acquire yet another new device (a Carpuride unit).

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
                      It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
                      https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

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                      @Con-Hennekens Ooops, indeed it does. My apologies for posting duff information šŸ‘

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                        Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                        https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                        Still looking foward to it!

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                          I fully support the idea. The size of the text in the ETA box has also been up for discussion.
                          And yes I know this is a boring thing to do for developers. But it can help to make the app usable on different devices when done right.
                          more settings isnt a problem as long as they are easy to understand and sensibly grouped.

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                          • richtea999undefined richtea999

                            Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                            https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                            Still looking foward to it!

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                            @richtea999 said:

                            Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                            https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                            Still looking foward to it!

                            It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

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                              @Corjan-Meijerink
                              It would be great if someone from the myRoute team could comment on this.

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                              • Daniel 7undefined Daniel 7

                                @Corjan-Meijerink
                                It would be great if someone from the myRoute team could comment on this.

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                                @Daniel-7 It’s vacation season. There will be for sure no awnser the next 14 days!

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                                • Daniel 7undefined Daniel 7

                                  @richtea999 said:

                                  Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                                  Still looking foward to it!

                                  It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

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                                  @Daniel-7 said:

                                  @richtea999 said:

                                  Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                                  Still looking foward to it!

                                  It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

                                  Oh, Corjan and the team definitely listen! I definitely wasn't complaining at the level of support - it's truly outstanding for the app world.

                                  It's just that particular issue seems to have slipped through the net.

                                  There is, of course, the possiblity that we're both wrong, and the rest of the world can easily read it on a shaking phone at 60/70mph. 😁

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                                  • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                    @Daniel-7 said:

                                    @richtea999 said:

                                    Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                                    https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                                    Still looking foward to it!

                                    It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

                                    Oh, Corjan and the team definitely listen! I definitely wasn't complaining at the level of support - it's truly outstanding for the app world.

                                    It's just that particular issue seems to have slipped through the net.

                                    There is, of course, the possiblity that we're both wrong, and the rest of the world can easily read it on a shaking phone at 60/70mph. 😁

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                                    @richtea999 said:

                                    @Daniel-7 said:

                                    @richtea999 said:

                                    Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                                    https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                                    Still looking foward to it!

                                    It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

                                    Oh, Corjan and the team definitely listen! I definitely wasn't complaining at the level of support - it's truly outstanding for the app world.

                                    It's just that particular issue seems to have slipped through the net.

                                    There is, of course, the possiblity that we're both wrong, and the rest of the world can easily read it on a shaking phone at 60/70mph. 😁

                                    And when the sun shines on the screen, it becomes even harder to see anything—even though my phone’s screen is already quite bright.
                                    When using Calimoto, I didn’t have any trouble seeing the distance to the next turn.
                                    I don’t think it would be a big deal to increase the font size for the distance to the next turn; after all, they’ve already released much more extensive updates.

                                    Otherwise, I’m really happy with MRA.

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                                    • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                      @Daniel-7 said:

                                      @richtea999 said:

                                      Here's one I mocked up 3 years ago exactly as you suggested:
                                      https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4307/suggestions-for-next-turn-box

                                      Still looking foward to it!

                                      It is a shame that nothing has been done about this problem in the three years since your post. Apparently, listening to individual users and their issues is not a high enough priority for the myRoute development team.

                                      Oh, Corjan and the team definitely listen! I definitely wasn't complaining at the level of support - it's truly outstanding for the app world.

                                      It's just that particular issue seems to have slipped through the net.

                                      There is, of course, the possiblity that we're both wrong, and the rest of the world can easily read it on a shaking phone at 60/70mph. 😁

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                                      @richtea999 said:

                                      There is, of course, the possiblity that we're both wrong, and the rest of the world can easily read it on a shaking phone at 60/70mph. 😁

                                      Now that you mention it, yes... At that speed I can still read my screen just fine. Or does that have more to do with the souplesse of my bike and the vibrationdemper under my phone? šŸ˜‰

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                                        @rob-verhoeff I do think it’s related to the mount, because it works perfectly fine on my thumping twin-cylinder bike as well 🫨🤣

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                                          @con-hennekens You are so right. Vibrating phone mounts on your bike are the most horrible accessories you can find. When you have a bad (mostly cheap) mount, is doesn't matter how large the font size is. The text still won't be the easy to read.

                                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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