Problema Car play
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@b0hd1 said in Problema Car play:
We would appreciate positive contributions, not contributions that constantly try to cover up mistakes. Thank you.
I am not trying to cover things up, I am merely disputing that nothing is done about it. If you think that is negative that's your opinion, not mine. I really do not have any interest in "covering things up".
@Lluis-Arasanz said in Problema Car play:
If when MyRoute is freezed I change to other app (navigation app or not) AA Screen works fine, but returning to MyRoute, is still freezed or, in best case, crashes with error
Yes I know the symptoms very well, I have been testing that quite intensively in my car, many changes have been done as a result, and I can only say that in my experience, the (cabled) connection to Android Auto for me is rock-solid since the latest public release. It is quite frustrating that, despite MANY users claiming a really great AA/CP experience, there always seem to be a certain amount for who the solutions do not work...
@Con-Hennekens Using a cable on a motorcycle is completely absurd. I won't continue this pointless debate.
Regards
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@Con-Hennekens Using a cable on a motorcycle is completely absurd. I won't continue this pointless debate.
Regards
@b0hd1, Who is being the negative one here...
Did I say somewhere that you should use a cabled connection on a bike? Don't think so... I said most of my testing was done IN MY CAR by cabled connection. FYI I have tried the wireles dingle also: rock solid... I just wanted t rule out a possible influence in stability from the dongle. It seems not to exist (in my case). But yeah, like you said, a very pointless debate you made from it... -
I tested cabled and Wired with dongle, IOS 26.2 and Android 14.
Both with different errors, and with time to do a well test 'cause I was not driving, so with time to do testing.
IOS is more Stable than Android, but also has some bugs and workarounds to implement.
And here, we are discussing if this errors are a real problem or not, and gouping our voice to standup a flag for development. We're no telling that App is a bad one, or worse than any other; I'm a Lifetime of Planner and also Next, so my first interest is to have a good, solid-as-a-rock, fast and stable app to use every day.
Development priority is not my objective, only to help to increase task list to arrive to good port.Regards,
Lluis Arasanz
- BMW F750GS
MotoMediaLink HW Interface for BMW's WonderWheel device - Samsung A14 with Beta MyRoute-App (primary bike use)
Tasker and MMLink SW for Android App Control - iPhone 14 with Beta MyRoute-App (personal and primary CP use)
- BMW F750GS
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@Adrian-Avram said in Problema Car play:
The developers seem more focused on adding new features than on fixing this fundamental problem.
I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version. The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions, so in all honesty you cannot claim that nothing has been done about it.
@Adrian-Avram said in Problema Car play:
Iโm not willing to risk mounting a phone worth over โฌ1,000 on the handlebars just to use MyRoute App.
No, I would certainly not advise that, I do not even put my 2 years old โฌ600 phone on my handlebar. Instead I buy a fully rugged phone for โฌ250 instead of some twice as expensive AA/CP device
and be done with it.@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version.
Just because you donโt use Android Auto doesnโt mean others shouldnโt. For those of us who do use it, this is still a real issue, it still is "a problem" !
@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions
Yes, it hasโbecause many users have migrated to other apps (OsmAnd, Calimoto, Kurviger, TomTom), which work perfectly with Android Auto, without excuses.
@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
Instead I buy a fully rugged phone for โฌ250 instead of some twice as expensive AA/CP device
Thats not a sollution for me, and others, to buy and carry around another device when you can connect wirelessly to a factory built in display (Africa Twin) !!
Best regards,
AdrianSamsung S25 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
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@Con-Hennekens Whether you want to use a smartphone instead of CarPlay is your decision, not anyone else's. I use a โฌ1000 tablet and a โฌ700 CarPlay system. It's my choice. I just hope both systems work properly, not that someone tells me which one to use.
We would appreciate positive contributions, not contributions that constantly try to cover up mistakes. Thank you.@b0hd1 said in Problema Car play:
We would appreciate positive contributions, not contributions that constantly try to cover up mistakes.
Exactly my point. I donโt understand why people on this forum are trying to cover up issues instead of helping to identify the root causeโjust because they donโt use the app with Android Auto / CarPlay. That doesnโt help users or the developers.
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I tested cabled and Wired with dongle, IOS 26.2 and Android 14.
Both with different errors, and with time to do a well test 'cause I was not driving, so with time to do testing.
IOS is more Stable than Android, but also has some bugs and workarounds to implement.
And here, we are discussing if this errors are a real problem or not, and gouping our voice to standup a flag for development. We're no telling that App is a bad one, or worse than any other; I'm a Lifetime of Planner and also Next, so my first interest is to have a good, solid-as-a-rock, fast and stable app to use every day.
Development priority is not my objective, only to help to increase task list to arrive to good port.Regards,
@Lluis-Arasanz said in Problema Car play:
I'm a Lifetime of Planner and also Next, so my first interest is to have a good, solid-as-a-rock, fast and stable app to use every day.
Same here !
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@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
I'd like to add that "this problem" is fundamental for less people each version.
Just because you donโt use Android Auto doesnโt mean others shouldnโt. For those of us who do use it, this is still a real issue, it still is "a problem" !
@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
The amount of people having problems has decreased drastically over the last few versions
Yes, it hasโbecause many users have migrated to other apps (OsmAnd, Calimoto, Kurviger, TomTom), which work perfectly with Android Auto, without excuses.
@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
Instead I buy a fully rugged phone for โฌ250 instead of some twice as expensive AA/CP device
Thats not a sollution for me, and others, to buy and carry around another device when you can connect wirelessly to a factory built in display (Africa Twin) !!
- I do use Android Auto
- I do understand that you want to use your built in AA/CP gadget (I do too, in my car)
- I have been extensively testing that the past half year
- I am quite confident that I helped devs more on this issue than you did
- your claim abou migrating is BS
- I am not the negative one here, you seem to be though
Let's rest this pointless mud-throwing here, shall we?
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In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app -
In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
@Con-Hennekens said in Problema Car play:
In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others
Take for sure I'll test this.
But, have you noted that this reply is someone we expect to have?
This one, even in case not working for us,
- explain how AA uses Location,
- address a workaround for AA Aplications
- and why, even if this workarond sounds "bad", must be taken into account.
This kind of answers is what I expect from an Alpha Tester. Great!
Regards!!!
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In another thread I was reminded on a simple trick to rule out problems with AA/CP built-in GPS units. It might be worth to see what it does in your specific problem cases @Lluis-Arasanz, @b0hd1, @Adrian-Avram and possibly others
In Android system settings goto Apps - All Apps - search for Android Auto - tap Android Auto - Permissions - tap Location - Disable this permission - go back yo your main screen - force close the MRA app and reopen it
There is most likely a similar option for iPhones and CarPlay, but I am not familiar with those. I know this sounds counterintuitive, but bear with me. The idea behind this, is that Android Auto loses it's permission to use the AA/CP built in GPS, the MRA app will automatically fall back to using your phone's GPS. Let's see what it does after this, if no improvement, reverse the setting. Personally I do this, because my Ford Sync3 headend does not communicate speed information correctly. We have seen all kinds of crazy stuff happening due to faulty communication by some AA/CP devices, up to driving backwards completely. And yes, often other apps work correctly, but they have hundreds of developers hunting for workarounds. MRA does not
@Con-Hennekens Yes sir!! Now that's more like it!!! This is what I call trying to provide solutions and making valuable contributions. Bravo. I'll try it this afternoon. I have a trip of just over an hour and I'll be able to run several tests. I'll let you know the results.
Thanks again.
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Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.
I am curious to the outcome of your testing.
I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!
Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.
Streetpilot 2610/Zumo 660/Zumo 395/ Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app -
Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.
I am curious to the outcome of your testing.
@Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!
Barcelona
BMW R1200GS
Oneplus 13
Chigee AIO6
๐พ๐ง๐๐๐ฉ๐ค๐ง ๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฌ๐ค ๐ฅ๐๐จ๐จ๐๐ค๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ง๐ค๐ช๐ฅ๐จ ๐๐ค๐ง ๐๐ฎ๐๐ค๐ช๐ฉ๐๐ผ๐ฅ๐ฅ
https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
https://www.youtube.com/@demco17 -
@Con-Hennekens I think I've also put you on the defensive, and I apologize. Look at my signature. For over five years, I've had a Telegram group dedicated exclusively to MRA with more than 500 members, in addition to over 1,000 followers on the MRA web group. So we're all in the same boat!
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Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. Iโve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didnโt encounter any issues.
BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 & 16 (mounted on Quadlock)
Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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Managed to get my hands on a Bluetooth dongle (Buddy Play 2) today. Iโve pushed the app to its limits wherever I could, and while driving a route and an A2B, I didnโt encounter any issues.
@Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...
Barcelona
BMW R1200GS
Oneplus 13
Chigee AIO6
๐พ๐ง๐๐๐ฉ๐ค๐ง ๐ค๐ ๐ฉ๐ฌ๐ค ๐ฅ๐๐จ๐จ๐๐ค๐ฃ๐๐ฉ๐ ๐๐ง๐ค๐ช๐ฅ๐จ ๐๐ค๐ง ๐๐ฎ๐๐ค๐ช๐ฉ๐๐ผ๐ฅ๐ฅ
https://t.me/mrarutasfriends
https://www.myrouteapp.com/group/routes/7007#-1/name/asc
https://www.youtube.com/@demco17 -
Thanks guys, mind you I have never intended a mud sling conversation. I think I am contributing positively to this community an almost insane amount. Then when someone claims me to be negative or narrowminded, I simply think that's not true and can get a little defensive about it. Please keep in mind that all alpha testers are volunteers and get nothing out of it, except great appreciation from MRA, it's devs and hopefully from the community.
I am curious to the outcome of your testing.
@Con-Hennekens It didn't work. It keeps freezing.
https://youtu.be/4SKGopQtn94?si=XQuD7SNHonuQv_rq -
@Rob-Verhoeff You're so lucky. Others with air conditioning are still having problems. I've attached a photo from right now with my car stopped. Look at the speed it's showing. The screen is completely frozen...
@b0hd1 I donโt quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. Iโll then try to reproduce the issue.
Iโm unable to play the video you posted...BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
iOS on iPhone 13 & 16 (mounted on Quadlock)
Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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@b0hd1 I donโt quite understand what air conditioning has to do with how the app works... Perhaps you could write down the exact steps, point by point, that lead to your screen freezing. Iโll then try to reproduce the issue.
Iโm unable to play the video you posted...@Rob-Verhoeff Hehe. The spell checker changed AA (Android Auto) to air conditioning... In the video, you can see MRa frozen and Osmand working. It's that simple.
For my part, I'm refraining from further testing and debate. It's 100% clear that MRA doesn't work reliably on Android Auto. We'll wait for the development team to find a solution.
Please @Corjan-MeijerinkRegards
