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  • Robert Laudensackundefined Offline
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    Today MyRouteApp is very good to plan a days trip, but is not so good for planing very long trips.
    e.g. I am just back from a 6 Weeks trip to the Arabian Peninsula.
    I did outline the rough way points like Home-Bagdad-Dubai-Muscat-Riyadh to get an overall feeling of distance and duration.
    Then for the individual day trip I had to plan on a day to day basis.
    I found my way around, but I wish I could be better assisted.
    e.g. being able to split out a part of trip to a day trip allowing me to do detail planning, add the Hotel (which I only book day in advance), etc.
    and then it would be nice to see this individual trip again represented/updated on the overall trip.
    Also for the tracklogs it would be nice to be able to save or group them with the overall Trip (today you have to each time to manually select them ...)
    Also the system need to better support higher numbers of waypoints (today you run into issues if there are to many waypoints)
    This is a sort of roll forward planning. So I have a rough plan, which I refine on a days basis.
    This might not be the end of the needs - I am happy to discuss πŸ™‚

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    • Nomko Nomdenundefined Offline
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      You didn't split the route at home when you plotted the total route?

      I always split the route in several parts.
      As example:
      When i plan to drive 300 km the first day, i create 1 long route for the whole day which i split up in several parts depending on the distance, riding time and were i want to stop to rest or have a drink/meal.

      So, the route of 300 km will be divided into 3 separate routes:
      part 1 - 100 km start home stop at gas station
      part 2 - 100 km start at gas station stop at restaurant
      part 3 - 100 km start at restaurant stop at hotel
      (this is just an example)

      When i get to my stop/rest, i load the next part before i go back on the road. Thus, i have no issues at all with long routes, clumped together information, wrong directions, whatever. It keeps the route clear, easy and simple for me.

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      • Robert Laudensackundefined Robert Laudensack

        Today MyRouteApp is very good to plan a days trip, but is not so good for planing very long trips.
        e.g. I am just back from a 6 Weeks trip to the Arabian Peninsula.
        I did outline the rough way points like Home-Bagdad-Dubai-Muscat-Riyadh to get an overall feeling of distance and duration.
        Then for the individual day trip I had to plan on a day to day basis.
        I found my way around, but I wish I could be better assisted.
        e.g. being able to split out a part of trip to a day trip allowing me to do detail planning, add the Hotel (which I only book day in advance), etc.
        and then it would be nice to see this individual trip again represented/updated on the overall trip.
        Also for the tracklogs it would be nice to be able to save or group them with the overall Trip (today you have to each time to manually select them ...)
        Also the system need to better support higher numbers of waypoints (today you run into issues if there are to many waypoints)
        This is a sort of roll forward planning. So I have a rough plan, which I refine on a days basis.
        This might not be the end of the needs - I am happy to discuss πŸ™‚

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        Guzzist
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        @Robert-Laudensack and the "split mechanism" is comfortably - because if you define a route point for split - the system will use it as end point for the first stretch and as well as start point for the next stretch automatically.

        Nothing is impossible ;-)
        In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
        In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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        • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Offline
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          Hi, would it be a good idea to split the route in a way that you set a limit for the distance you want to ride? I somehow miss this. You can set manually points but it’s kind of a guess work as the scale is hidden by some info on the map on my device. Thomas

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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            I just got a swell idea (I think... ). Designate specific "split points" as a new kind of waypoint. Call it a "super VIA" or something. When you start a route, you answer a question like: "Which part you want to navigate today?".

            Problem though is, for multi-day routes, you will soon cross the limit of 200 waypoints...

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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            • Robert Laudensackundefined Offline
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              Thanks. Spiting function is nice and I know it, but it seems to me that you have not planned really long trips in a roll forward manner. My problem is not splitting, i can do that, but then I have again individual day trips ... What I suggested is to have a complete new functionality which allows a better management of such long trips. One feature missing is e.g. that you can "group" day trips together. Perhaps you need to manage that in a complete different way. One issue is the 200 waypoint limit for sure, I most likely talking about thousands of waypoints..... I don't have a solution, I wanted to launch a discussion.

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              • Robert Laudensackundefined Robert Laudensack

                Thanks. Spiting function is nice and I know it, but it seems to me that you have not planned really long trips in a roll forward manner. My problem is not splitting, i can do that, but then I have again individual day trips ... What I suggested is to have a complete new functionality which allows a better management of such long trips. One feature missing is e.g. that you can "group" day trips together. Perhaps you need to manage that in a complete different way. One issue is the 200 waypoint limit for sure, I most likely talking about thousands of waypoints..... I don't have a solution, I wanted to launch a discussion.

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                Hi @Robert-Laudensack not sure if this will be of help but I do fairly long trips but nothing as huge as your impressive 6 weeks.
                I do similar to you & start with an outline to get an idea of the distances which enables me to choose destination / night stops. I will use up pretty much all of the 200 points creating the outline.

                Once the route outline is roughly done I then split it into the individual days & these are all stored in the same folder within MRA so they are grouped together
                In the same folder I will create an Overview route which is made up of the individual days as described in this thread
                As the Overview route contains a view of the individual days it is automatically updated when I edit each of the individual days route & I can see the whole trip
                d98eeaf8-0bdd-44a7-bee4-4c7b9ad7282a-image.png
                I agree more than 200 points would be nice & it has been requested many times but I believe it maybe kept at this limit for performance reasons

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                Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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                • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                  Hi @Robert-Laudensack not sure if this will be of help but I do fairly long trips but nothing as huge as your impressive 6 weeks.
                  I do similar to you & start with an outline to get an idea of the distances which enables me to choose destination / night stops. I will use up pretty much all of the 200 points creating the outline.

                  Once the route outline is roughly done I then split it into the individual days & these are all stored in the same folder within MRA so they are grouped together
                  In the same folder I will create an Overview route which is made up of the individual days as described in this thread
                  As the Overview route contains a view of the individual days it is automatically updated when I edit each of the individual days route & I can see the whole trip
                  d98eeaf8-0bdd-44a7-bee4-4c7b9ad7282a-image.png
                  I agree more than 200 points would be nice & it has been requested many times but I believe it maybe kept at this limit for performance reasons

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                  @Brian-McG I agree with your method. I plan a long trip setting the basic route and plan the stops for each day, then split into days and plan each day separately in detail. Routes, stops, special attractions, lunch, possible detours, and finally the stop for the night. It's much easier planning each day in detail. The next day can be reviewed in the evening to see if any changes are required. 200 waypoints is more than enough for a full day's travel.

                  2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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