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Map "spinning" when standing still

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  • pehaundefined Offline
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    @Corjan-Meijerink Is it possible to downgrade my installation back to the last 4.*? How can this be done (where do I get the older .apk)? With the spinning and recalculating at every stop, the app really is not of much use as "everyday navigation on the city" (my main use case), unfortunately.

    VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
    Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
    Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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      Con Hennekens
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      #10

      That can only be done by searching on an APK mirror.
      Of course all that is beyond MRA support.
      Have you tried tilting your device a bit, like @Forest suggested?

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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      • pehaundefined Offline
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        #11

        Thanks, I'll probably look for the older APK then. No, I have not tryed changing the phone's tilt (its angle of inclination); I mount it with a SP Connect holder in a fixed position that hasn't changed for a long time, so it already was in that exact orientation when working without problems in 4.*. Also, when using the app in my car (different holder and position, same phone, different Carpuride), unfortunately the problem presents exactly the same: as soon as I stop, most of the time a map rotation and recalculation are triggered.

        VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
        Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
        Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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        • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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          Hubert Thoring
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          #12

          Is this a HERE internal problem ???

          Noticed to see as a hint:

          • This also seems very familiar to me, one reason is that the MRA machine internally means that you turn and turns the map in the planned direction of the tour, unfortunately the MRA machine does not know exactly that you unfortunately had to stop before turning, and since it does not go any further, the card changes back and that goes back and forth....

          Proposal for the MRA machine:

          • The turn and the associated arrow position of the location should be followed more slowly and not hastily so that the turning can also be done safely on the map ...

          So it is better solved with other apps and does not irritate so much.

          • Currently it is important to know where the route should actually lead in such an incident and without looking at the map ..!

          VG Hubert
          Info Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
          iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.1 / iPhone 16e iOS 26.1 / iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.2 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

            I noticed the same on my tablet.

            pehaundefined Offline
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            peha
            wrote last edited by peha
            #13

            @Corjan-Meijerink said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

            Haven't seen it myself!
            That said, it can indeed be caused by "incorrect" location updates.
            Not an issue exclusive to MRA.

            @Corjan-Meijerink You can see an example of the problem in this video (I had my passenger film this with their phone, so that my own phone was exactly as it always is while navigating and the "setup would not be compromised" by moving the phone that controls the navigation): once I stop at a traffic light during navigation, the map rotates. Often, that also triggers rerouting. It happens both in my car and on the motorcycle (same phone, different Carpuride devices).

            This only happens with MyRouteApp; with other apps I use, this doesn't happen. It seems rude to post apps other than the one this forum is about, so I didn't include it, but I also had my passenger film a similar situation a few minutes later with a different app, same phone (unmoved), same ride, and no such unwanted rotation happens.

            I really hope a solution might be found for this? ❓🙂

            VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
            Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
            Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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            • LE DIZES Freddyundefined Offline
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              idem pour moi , il me semble que c'est surtout en ville , lorsque je m'arrête en campagne , je n'ai pas ce problème
              ça le faisait aussi avec les autres versions

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              • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Offline
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                #15

                Can confirm that I had the same issue last week, with the new version 5, but it happened also in the previous version.
                Pixel 9 / all settings up to date

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                Pixel 9 "online"
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • pehaundefined Offline
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                  @Corjan-Meijerink Do you plan to investigate this phenomenon further, as it seems there are a number of users experiencing this, not just me?

                  VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                  Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                  Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                    Corjan Meijerink
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                    #17

                    I stand by my previous statement: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/71634 😉

                    The issue is definitely not related to v5 specifically. Yes, it can be annoying but there are so many factors that can cause the issue which makes it hard to investigate. After driving with quite a bit of Android Auto / CarPlay lately I can only confirm that I did not observe the behavior.

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                      Con Hennekens
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                      #18

                      I actually find it helpful for orienting on the surroundings... 😉
                      But I never could discover under what circumstances it happens, and when not.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                        #19

                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in Map "spinning" when standing still:

                        The issue is definitely not related to v5 specifically.

                        Thank you for your reply. It's possible that I just didn't notice it as much before. What I can say for sure, though, is that it now occurs at practically each and every single stop when driving through Berlin (i.e. every three minutes), which is really annoying and makes it necessary to memorize which way to go before your stop (so that one can drive the desired route despite the unwillingly recalculated navigation pointing in a wrong direction. And that's a bad thing for a navigation app, I would say!

                        Yes, it can be annoying but there are so many factors that can cause the issue which makes it hard to investigate. After driving with quite a bit of Android Auto / CarPlay lately I can only confirm that I did not observe the behavior.

                        It has been said by others above that it seems to be a problem while driving through the city rather than the countryside. Maybe you have driving mostly outside urban areas?

                        I understand it might be hard to debug, but given that this happens with none of the other navigation apps I have installed, it's obviously a MRA-specific (or HERE-specific) problem. And I don't think the hardness of a problem's debuggability is a helpful measure in software engineering in order to achive a great product.

                        VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                        Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                        Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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                        • Jörgenundefined Offline
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                          Jörgen
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                          Hi, I had this the other day on countryside. When I stopped the screen turns half to one site and then 360° to the other side and then stays mostly in other direction then you have to drive.
                          When I tried to make a screen recording (what is difficult during driving) it was gone, I could not replicate it that day.
                          I will try next time.

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                          iPhone 12 pro (iOS 18.7.1)
                          Oukitel RT3 pro (Andr. 14)
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                          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                            Hi, I had this the other day on countryside. When I stopped the screen turns half to one site and then 360° to the other side and then stays mostly in other direction then you have to drive.
                            When I tried to make a screen recording (what is difficult during driving) it was gone, I could not replicate it that day.
                            I will try next time.

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                            Con Hennekens
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #21

                            @Jörgen, I think we all know what it looks like, just don't try to make screen recordings while driving, stay safe instead 😉

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                            • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Offline
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                              Updated my Samsung Tab with 5.0.0. Same spinning while standing like on the Ulefone. Regards Thomas

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                                I’ll investigate this more in depth for 5.0.2 🙂

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                                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                  I’ll investigate this more in depth for 5.0.2 🙂

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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink That's great to hear. 👍

                                  VOGE DS 900 X: AA with Carpuride W702 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)
                                  Royal Alloy TG 300 S: Mounted Samsung S22 Ultra
                                  Skoda Citigo: AA with Carpuride W903 (via Samsung S22 Ultra)

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                                    @Con-Hennekens
                                    Thank you very much for your care. I know safety comes first. That's why I started the screen recording beforehand today. And I edited the video afterwards.
                                    I had to stop at that point (at 38 seconds) because of oncoming traffic.
                                    The direction of travel was clear here, but when you're standing at an intersection and the screen rotates like that, it's not clear.

                                    Anyway, just to demonstrate: https://youtu.be/t1NSoV13yYs

                                    Hardware
                                    iPhone 12 pro (iOS 18.7.1)
                                    Oukitel RT3 pro (Andr. 14)
                                    Samsung XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                    Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                    Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                    More information about Workshops here

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