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Suggestion: convert route to route-track from within MRA Routeplanner

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  • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

    Note: I'm aware there's a work-around: save as GPX (with track), import as route-track. I would just like to get rid of those two steps.

    For archival purposes, I would like to be able to 'convert' routes I've used in the past to route-tracks, to maintain their 'integrity' over time. Routes (based on waypoints) run the risk of being changed without my involvement, by changes in the map they are based on, changes in the route-calculation algorithm and more. To preserve the route as it was when it was originally created, it would be great to be able to convert it to a route-track from within MRA.

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    @Herko-ter-Horst

    The quickest way I know is to save the Route with Waypoints as a GPX1.1 (Track, POI)
    Then upload it as a Route-Track.
    I guess those are the same 2 steps you are trying to avoid.

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    • Jack van Tilburgundefined Offline
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      I totally agree with @Herko-ter-Horst suggestion.
      I often save the track and route for the same reason and would like to be able to do that with fewer steps.

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        Hi @Herko-ter-Horst,

        Thanks for your suggestion. It's a good one!

        Kind regards,

        Timo

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          It occurs to me that this suggestion has gained an additional benefit in combination with MRA Navigation (Next): to use track navigation with MRA Navigation, you currently have to perform the same two steps on routes you have created yourself, or that you have found in the RouteLab. Although it would be even nicer (IMO) if users of MRA Navigation could simply choose from the app if they wanted to navigate a certain route using waypoint or track based navigation, implementing this suggestion would already take some of the pain of enabling track navigation for your own routes away.

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          • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

            It occurs to me that this suggestion has gained an additional benefit in combination with MRA Navigation (Next): to use track navigation with MRA Navigation, you currently have to perform the same two steps on routes you have created yourself, or that you have found in the RouteLab. Although it would be even nicer (IMO) if users of MRA Navigation could simply choose from the app if they wanted to navigate a certain route using waypoint or track based navigation, implementing this suggestion would already take some of the pain of enabling track navigation for your own routes away.

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            @Herko-ter-Horst We'd like to add the feature natively to the app as you mention too 🙂

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            • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

              @Herko-ter-Horst

              The quickest way I know is to save the Route with Waypoints as a GPX1.1 (Track, POI)
              Then upload it as a Route-Track.
              I guess those are the same 2 steps you are trying to avoid.

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              @Steve-Lynch
              For me, with a BMW Navigator V, the best format is GPX 1.2.

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                @Herko-ter-Horst We'd like to add the feature natively to the app as you mention too 🙂

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                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Suggestion: convert route to route-track from within MRA Routeplanner:

                @Herko-ter-Horst We'd like to add the feature natively to the app as you mention too 🙂

                That's really cool and very user-friendly for users of the app. I hope the original suggestion will be made available in the planner too 🙂

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                • Kris Lemaireundefined Offline
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                  Hi, before starting new topic, I search for it and found this discussion, last message was in 2023, meanwhile I can't find it in the planner, does it mean there will be no solution to convert a route directly into a track directly in the planner ? Or is it somewhere in the planning ?

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                    #10

                    Why do you want to convert a route into a track? For the same reason as the post creater?

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                    • Kris Lemaireundefined Kris Lemaire

                      Hi, before starting new topic, I search for it and found this discussion, last message was in 2023, meanwhile I can't find it in the planner, does it mean there will be no solution to convert a route directly into a track directly in the planner ? Or is it somewhere in the planning ?

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                      @Kris-Lemaire said in Suggestion: convert route to route-track from within MRA Routeplanner:

                      Hi, before starting new topic, I search for it and found this discussion, last message was in 2023, meanwhile I can't find it in the planner, does it mean there will be no solution to convert a route directly into a track directly in the planner ? Or is it somewhere in the planning ?

                      Hi Kris,

                      if you want this feature for maintaining a route archive, I would suggest that you use the tracklogs. I do the same, as my experience is, that most of the times we ahve to use smaller or bigger deviations to the original route. I always upload/save the tracklog at the end of the trip. This is then my archive 🙂

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                      • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                        Note: I'm aware there's a work-around: save as GPX (with track), import as route-track. I would just like to get rid of those two steps.

                        For archival purposes, I would like to be able to 'convert' routes I've used in the past to route-tracks, to maintain their 'integrity' over time. Routes (based on waypoints) run the risk of being changed without my involvement, by changes in the map they are based on, changes in the route-calculation algorithm and more. To preserve the route as it was when it was originally created, it would be great to be able to convert it to a route-track from within MRA.

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                        @Herko-ter-Horst It must be almost 3 years ago I asked the development team to introduce this feature....

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                          This feature request probably is superseeded by the "Navigate route as track" feature in combination with the fact that every route already contains a lowres track to enable this feature.

                          Having said that, to copy a route as a track could be beneficial for sharing the track among users of third-party navigation systems from within the MyRouteApp planner (without export/import). Also it is a great tool for quickly comparing a route for changes, when they are getting old.

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                          • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                            Why do you want to convert a route into a track? For the same reason as the post creater?

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                            @Jörgen
                            It would be nice to have this feature, to make it possible to send a track to other people instead of a route.

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                              But you can save already your route as GPX (as track) and send it to others?
                              I do not understand the needs for this?

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                              • Kris Lemaireundefined Kris Lemaire

                                @Jörgen
                                It would be nice to have this feature, to make it possible to send a track to other people instead of a route.

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                                @Kris-Lemaire said in Suggestion: convert route to route-track from within MRA Routeplanner:

                                It would be nice to have this feature, to make it possible to send a track to other people instead of a route.

                                Like @Jörgen said, you can save as a track (and POI) only GPX for distribution (if you want to limit users to track).

                                @Jörgen said in Suggestion: convert route to route-track from within MRA Routeplanner:

                                I do not understand the needs for this?

                                It enables to share MRA download links with maintained route information, but limited to track download. Don't ask me why, but many tour managers fancy that 😉 (their way or no way...)

                                Also, it is nice to have a track available if you want to check routes for differences. Lay the routetrack behind your route to see where it deviates from the original routetrack. I am sure there will be some TLC from the developers for features like this, in the upcoming web planner overhaul (but don't hold your breath).

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