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  • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

    Hello, I'm wondering if when you are designing a route, will it warn you if the route you design goes against your avoidances you have selected? For instance "unpaved roads" I recently designed a route and had chosen to avoid unpaved roads. When on the route, i turned a corner and a warning came up on my phone saying route violation. Maybe this already is something you can see on the routeplanner, if so, I missed it. If not, it would be cool if you chose a route that violated your choice of avoidances, that it would warn you, or color the route red or something. Please help as I don't want this to happen again as I was leading a group ride and it's an unpardonable sin, lol, to lead others down gravel when on Harley's and Goldwings.
    Thanks for your help. I love the app.

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    @Mike-wiruth, no, currently there is no warning in the web-planner. But of course you can use different map-layers to check the roads you will ride. Also, tricking armchair-riders into a bit of dust is quite hilarious, when not overdone 😉

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @Mike-wiruth, no, currently there is no warning in the web-planner. But of course you can use different map-layers to check the roads you will ride. Also, tricking armchair-riders into a bit of dust is quite hilarious, when not overdone 😉

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      @Con-Hennekens Thanks Con

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Mike-wiruth, no, currently there is no warning in the web-planner. But of course you can use different map-layers to check the roads you will ride. Also, tricking armchair-riders into a bit of dust is quite hilarious, when not overdone 😉

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        @Con-Hennekens I love tricking my HD riders into a little gravel on almost every ride! 😊 😊

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • Mike wiruthundefined Mike wiruth

          Hello, I'm wondering if when you are designing a route, will it warn you if the route you design goes against your avoidances you have selected? For instance "unpaved roads" I recently designed a route and had chosen to avoid unpaved roads. When on the route, i turned a corner and a warning came up on my phone saying route violation. Maybe this already is something you can see on the routeplanner, if so, I missed it. If not, it would be cool if you chose a route that violated your choice of avoidances, that it would warn you, or color the route red or something. Please help as I don't want this to happen again as I was leading a group ride and it's an unpardonable sin, lol, to lead others down gravel when on Harley's and Goldwings.
          Thanks for your help. I love the app.

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          Hi @Mike-wiruth unfortunately its not something that I see as within MRA's control

          The surface condition on a road/track is part of the map data which is supplied the exterior map data suppliers, Here, TomTom & OpenStreetMap, all MRA can do is plot a route relying on that data
          I can tell you now that the Here data, which is what MRA use for their navigation app, is by far the worst for routing down unpaved tracks, taking shortcuts where roads don't even exisit, even when there are perfectly good roads that are just a little bit longer/slower nearby.

          The only way I think you can reduce the chance of such surprises is by switching between the routing profiles/& the overlay maps, & by comparing the different paths each profile generates
          I find very often the Here routing profile will route down a path, which when inspected by viewing the OSM overlay map, it turns out to be designated as a track & not a road at all

          If your using an XT as suggested by your signature that will introduce a whole level of other surprises, I found after 2 years of meticulously careful planning could I prevent it from doing something completely unexpected

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          Normaly navigate Routes in Offline mode with Offline Maps

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            OK, forget unpaved route avoidances, replace unpaved with toll roads! Too late when you start your route and on the ramp to the motorway...It would be so much better to get that violation warning in the planning stages.

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              To avoid such surprises, you can view the route, or any questionable sections of it, in Street View. It's very convenient that MRA offers this option.
              This has allowed me to identify problems in many routes I have driven and adjust the route accordingly.

              met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App; de Garmin Zumo XT en My Route App in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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                I agree that the planner should advise the planner of possible route violations during the planning process. Hopefully will be included in the future major update.

                2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                  This would be nice if it could be implemented!

                  met een R1250RT met TFT en BMW Connected Ride App; de Garmin Zumo XT en My Route App in combinatie met de Carpuride W702 (voor Android op de Motor!)

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                    You need to have the Gold option, but with it you can check your route planning by comparing the paths suggested by OpenStreetMap and TomTom. This usually solves most issues, and when there are differences, you can verify them using Street View.
                    That’s the method I use, and it’s always worked well for me.
                    Oh, and I almost forgot — you can also choose whether to include or exclude seasonal road closures.

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                      The route violations are also an issue when using Navigation Next. It tells you, that there are violations, but it won´t show you - at least not w/o zooming in and controlling every inch of the route.^^

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                        Today while following a circle route, there were a couple of violations. They did show up when looking at the complete route. I was able to tap on them to see what the violations were.

                        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                          I agree. I had many situation where the Road violation warning only pops up during the ride, wheras it should pop up during the planing where it is easy to correct a planing mistake. Comparing different routing options is a nice feature, but I use MyRoutApp for navigation why would I see what TomTom does...
                          Of course this warning only pop up when there is no internet reception and the detour will cost hours .... I remember a situation in Georgia where I had to turn after 2 hours of riding .....

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                          • Robert Laudensackundefined Robert Laudensack

                            I agree. I had many situation where the Road violation warning only pops up during the ride, wheras it should pop up during the planing where it is easy to correct a planing mistake. Comparing different routing options is a nice feature, but I use MyRoutApp for navigation why would I see what TomTom does...
                            Of course this warning only pop up when there is no internet reception and the detour will cost hours .... I remember a situation in Georgia where I had to turn after 2 hours of riding .....

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                            @Robert-Laudensack Tomtom has the best traffic information there is. So if you compare your route with Tomtom is you will have less trouble when you driving.
                            The traffic info from Here maps is not so good and would not tell you why you can not pass that road.

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