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  • D Griffinundefined Offline
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    I'm not here to bash MRA, I really really really like this product, however The veering off course is terrible! Went on a 600 mile overnight journey. Day 1 this thing wouldn't stay on course, wouldn't re calculate, just over all a bad experience. Day 2 it just wouldn't lock on the route, tried resetting my phone, used a second phone even went as far as learning how to calibrate my GPS on my phone, and yes my MRA app and maps were updated. I really wish they could get this fixed. I do believe it is an android issue. We had 2 iPhones on bikes and 2 Androids, both Androids were terrible. The iPhone was a little better but still not great, still veering off and thinking it's on a complete different road. I finally got to the point where I feel it is more stressful on the ride to try and figure out where I'm supposed to be. I switched over to Google maps and had 0 issues with it staying on route. Of course it didn't take us on the exact route we wanted to go but still was a lot less stressful. I know everyone thinks I'm bad mouthing the product. I'm really not! I can't believe no one else is having the problems I'm seeing. As for designing a route this thing is great! For staying on that route...UHG!!!!!
    I tried resetting my phone, I tried calibrating my GPS, I tried stopping the route and restarting it and telling it to jump to the next waypoint. I tried using a friends Android, I tried using my g/f IPhone....I think i covered all my bases!!!!!!!

    Again please don't take this as I am lashing out, I just want this thing to work like I was told it should!!

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    • Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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      #2

      Can you post a link to the route ? This happened to me before, but I started to use as many shaping points as I can forcing the navigation on the planned route.

      Best regards,
      Adrian

      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
      Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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      • Nomko Nomdenundefined Offline
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        Nomko Nomden
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        @D-Griffin Sorry to hear things didn't worked out the way you expected.

        But to have the full picture here, on what device are you using MRA (brand/model)?

        And as @Adrian-Avram, please provide us with a link to the route you were using.

        | MRA Gold Member |
        | Garmin Zumo XT + BMW K1200GT |
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        • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

          I'm not here to bash MRA, I really really really like this product, however The veering off course is terrible! Went on a 600 mile overnight journey. Day 1 this thing wouldn't stay on course, wouldn't re calculate, just over all a bad experience. Day 2 it just wouldn't lock on the route, tried resetting my phone, used a second phone even went as far as learning how to calibrate my GPS on my phone, and yes my MRA app and maps were updated. I really wish they could get this fixed. I do believe it is an android issue. We had 2 iPhones on bikes and 2 Androids, both Androids were terrible. The iPhone was a little better but still not great, still veering off and thinking it's on a complete different road. I finally got to the point where I feel it is more stressful on the ride to try and figure out where I'm supposed to be. I switched over to Google maps and had 0 issues with it staying on route. Of course it didn't take us on the exact route we wanted to go but still was a lot less stressful. I know everyone thinks I'm bad mouthing the product. I'm really not! I can't believe no one else is having the problems I'm seeing. As for designing a route this thing is great! For staying on that route...UHG!!!!!
          I tried resetting my phone, I tried calibrating my GPS, I tried stopping the route and restarting it and telling it to jump to the next waypoint. I tried using a friends Android, I tried using my g/f IPhone....I think i covered all my bases!!!!!!!

          Again please don't take this as I am lashing out, I just want this thing to work like I was told it should!!

          Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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          Con Hennekens
          Alpha tester
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @D-Griffin said in Another Failed trip...UHG:

          I do believe it is an android issue.

          I do not agree 😉
          The codebase and all the logic for calculations and skips are equal on iOS and Android.

          What exactly do you mean with "could not lock on the route" and "veering off thinking it's on a complete different road". Can you explain this using screenshots perhaps? Also there is a setting for enabling/disabling recalculation, did you check that?

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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          • D Griffinundefined Offline
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            D Griffin
            wrote last edited by
            #5

            Thank you all for your response and your willingness to help. I have planned many routes on this thing and have had the "floating" icon on all my routes. I have done routes where I use many waypoint (to many according to the help on here) and I have done routes with no so many waypoints, still experiencing the same problem. Here is my route....

            https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/12209363

            I am using a Samsung Galaxy S23 my phone. On this trip we tried a Samsung Galaxy S25, an iPhone 15 (2024 model) and also the new iPhone 16. All of them will not hold the route. @Con-Hennekens when I say "hold the route, or lock on the route" I mean there is a blue line running from waypoint to waypoint. My arrow icon will not stay on that blue line. When I am riding or even sitting at a stop light, the arrow icon moves. Sometimes moving so far off the blue line that the route I need to be on disappears from my phone screen. When this happens sometimes it re corrects and attempts to get me back on track, Sometimes the arrow just stays lost no where near where we need to be. When you are in an unfamiliar area what do you do? I have got to the point where I try to stop the route and restart it, sometimes that helps. But I don't believe I should need to do this 10-12-15 times a ride!! I keep comparing this to Google maps. Saturday night we left our hotel and backtracked on a few roads we had been on earlier (roads that MRA could not stay on course). I used Google to get to the restaurant, then to the home we went to visit, then back to the hotel. We were on windy twisty roads and the icon on Google never left that blue line, and certainly never got us lost or off track. I know Google maps is a whole different animal, however I feel this rules out my phone having a GPS issue. On my above route problems started @ waypoint #2. Pulled me off route and sent me thru north Chagrin Reservation onto rt 174. also @ waypoint #5 it rerouted us across rt 87 to rt44. We were meeting riders at waypoint #6. There is a brewery there, I set the waypoint before the brewery. When I arrive there all I do is pull off the side of the road, guys fire up their bikes and we go back on the road. I wont even turn off the bike because I fear trying to get the MRA app to start back up and be on the correct route! We were OK from there until Waypoint #8. Here it veered off the blue line. I was able to just stay on route and eventually after a few miles it recorrected itself and put me back on route. The next problem and this is where it really got stupid...After waypoint #13 MRA sent me NW down rt. 40 to 40/4 to alexander rd which brought us to the hotel. Now along all these errors while navigating, the only way I can stay on route is..when I make a turn I glance to my phone and I see the next turn (Example, turn left on 44 in 12 miles). At this point the MRA map is so erratic I just drive until I find the next road and hope by then MRA has caught up to itself or re corrected the route. I have no screen shots, very dangerous to do while riding my bike! This is one of the reasons I bought MRA. Figured I could make a route and follow it successfully and safely and get to a destination without starting and stopping this program many times. The original route I had planned between waypoint #13 and #15 there is nothing wrong with the road, As stated earlier google maps brought me out that way, and later that evening brought me to the hotel that way.

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            • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

              Thank you all for your response and your willingness to help. I have planned many routes on this thing and have had the "floating" icon on all my routes. I have done routes where I use many waypoint (to many according to the help on here) and I have done routes with no so many waypoints, still experiencing the same problem. Here is my route....

              https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/12209363

              I am using a Samsung Galaxy S23 my phone. On this trip we tried a Samsung Galaxy S25, an iPhone 15 (2024 model) and also the new iPhone 16. All of them will not hold the route. @Con-Hennekens when I say "hold the route, or lock on the route" I mean there is a blue line running from waypoint to waypoint. My arrow icon will not stay on that blue line. When I am riding or even sitting at a stop light, the arrow icon moves. Sometimes moving so far off the blue line that the route I need to be on disappears from my phone screen. When this happens sometimes it re corrects and attempts to get me back on track, Sometimes the arrow just stays lost no where near where we need to be. When you are in an unfamiliar area what do you do? I have got to the point where I try to stop the route and restart it, sometimes that helps. But I don't believe I should need to do this 10-12-15 times a ride!! I keep comparing this to Google maps. Saturday night we left our hotel and backtracked on a few roads we had been on earlier (roads that MRA could not stay on course). I used Google to get to the restaurant, then to the home we went to visit, then back to the hotel. We were on windy twisty roads and the icon on Google never left that blue line, and certainly never got us lost or off track. I know Google maps is a whole different animal, however I feel this rules out my phone having a GPS issue. On my above route problems started @ waypoint #2. Pulled me off route and sent me thru north Chagrin Reservation onto rt 174. also @ waypoint #5 it rerouted us across rt 87 to rt44. We were meeting riders at waypoint #6. There is a brewery there, I set the waypoint before the brewery. When I arrive there all I do is pull off the side of the road, guys fire up their bikes and we go back on the road. I wont even turn off the bike because I fear trying to get the MRA app to start back up and be on the correct route! We were OK from there until Waypoint #8. Here it veered off the blue line. I was able to just stay on route and eventually after a few miles it recorrected itself and put me back on route. The next problem and this is where it really got stupid...After waypoint #13 MRA sent me NW down rt. 40 to 40/4 to alexander rd which brought us to the hotel. Now along all these errors while navigating, the only way I can stay on route is..when I make a turn I glance to my phone and I see the next turn (Example, turn left on 44 in 12 miles). At this point the MRA map is so erratic I just drive until I find the next road and hope by then MRA has caught up to itself or re corrected the route. I have no screen shots, very dangerous to do while riding my bike! This is one of the reasons I bought MRA. Figured I could make a route and follow it successfully and safely and get to a destination without starting and stopping this program many times. The original route I had planned between waypoint #13 and #15 there is nothing wrong with the road, As stated earlier google maps brought me out that way, and later that evening brought me to the hotel that way.

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              Marinus van Deudekom
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              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @D-Griffin i've looked at the route.
              You got the Here map to navigate OK
              Waypoints placed OK
              There shouldn't be any problem according to the route.
              Maybe you could serve y the crash Log, holding on to the version number in your account and then send that to the helpdesk.
              Are you Navigating online or offline
              You could try to change that
              I see that you use the motorcycle profile. That shouldn't be a problem but you could try the car profile.
              In your case I would send in the crash Log

              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
              Honda Silverwing GL 650
              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
              Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
              Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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              • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

                Thank you all for your response and your willingness to help. I have planned many routes on this thing and have had the "floating" icon on all my routes. I have done routes where I use many waypoint (to many according to the help on here) and I have done routes with no so many waypoints, still experiencing the same problem. Here is my route....

                https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/12209363

                I am using a Samsung Galaxy S23 my phone. On this trip we tried a Samsung Galaxy S25, an iPhone 15 (2024 model) and also the new iPhone 16. All of them will not hold the route. @Con-Hennekens when I say "hold the route, or lock on the route" I mean there is a blue line running from waypoint to waypoint. My arrow icon will not stay on that blue line. When I am riding or even sitting at a stop light, the arrow icon moves. Sometimes moving so far off the blue line that the route I need to be on disappears from my phone screen. When this happens sometimes it re corrects and attempts to get me back on track, Sometimes the arrow just stays lost no where near where we need to be. When you are in an unfamiliar area what do you do? I have got to the point where I try to stop the route and restart it, sometimes that helps. But I don't believe I should need to do this 10-12-15 times a ride!! I keep comparing this to Google maps. Saturday night we left our hotel and backtracked on a few roads we had been on earlier (roads that MRA could not stay on course). I used Google to get to the restaurant, then to the home we went to visit, then back to the hotel. We were on windy twisty roads and the icon on Google never left that blue line, and certainly never got us lost or off track. I know Google maps is a whole different animal, however I feel this rules out my phone having a GPS issue. On my above route problems started @ waypoint #2. Pulled me off route and sent me thru north Chagrin Reservation onto rt 174. also @ waypoint #5 it rerouted us across rt 87 to rt44. We were meeting riders at waypoint #6. There is a brewery there, I set the waypoint before the brewery. When I arrive there all I do is pull off the side of the road, guys fire up their bikes and we go back on the road. I wont even turn off the bike because I fear trying to get the MRA app to start back up and be on the correct route! We were OK from there until Waypoint #8. Here it veered off the blue line. I was able to just stay on route and eventually after a few miles it recorrected itself and put me back on route. The next problem and this is where it really got stupid...After waypoint #13 MRA sent me NW down rt. 40 to 40/4 to alexander rd which brought us to the hotel. Now along all these errors while navigating, the only way I can stay on route is..when I make a turn I glance to my phone and I see the next turn (Example, turn left on 44 in 12 miles). At this point the MRA map is so erratic I just drive until I find the next road and hope by then MRA has caught up to itself or re corrected the route. I have no screen shots, very dangerous to do while riding my bike! This is one of the reasons I bought MRA. Figured I could make a route and follow it successfully and safely and get to a destination without starting and stopping this program many times. The original route I had planned between waypoint #13 and #15 there is nothing wrong with the road, As stated earlier google maps brought me out that way, and later that evening brought me to the hotel that way.

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                Alpha tester
                wrote last edited by
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                @D-Griffin, In my view there is nothing wrong with that route, and I cannot think of anything being wrong with a route that would result in what you describe. To be honest I never heard of anything like it, at least not in any version that starts with a 4.x.x. Since you are using a Samsung S25, your version cannot be older than that I suppose?

                The app asks for "exact location" permissions at first start. Did you by any chance decline that? Please check the location permissions on the app, from within the Android system settings.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / Motorola Thinkphone + MRA app

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                  @D-Griffin i've looked at the route.
                  You got the Here map to navigate OK
                  Waypoints placed OK
                  There shouldn't be any problem according to the route.
                  Maybe you could serve y the crash Log, holding on to the version number in your account and then send that to the helpdesk.
                  Are you Navigating online or offline
                  You could try to change that
                  I see that you use the motorcycle profile. That shouldn't be a problem but you could try the car profile.
                  In your case I would send in the crash Log

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                  D Griffin
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                  #8

                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom I have done with online and offline, no difference. When I first started on MRA yes I screwd a lot of routes up. But with help and guidance from all of you, I feel I have the route planning down pretty good. I am just frustrated!! When you put an android and an iPhone together on the same bike, same route and you get 2 different results, that to me is an issue with the android/iPhone platform communicating with the program, this is just my opinion. I will reach out to the help desk see if they have any suggestions, I hate 2 give up on a good product, however what I thought was gonna make my bike so much more fun to ride has done the direct opposite!!!

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                  • D Griffinundefined D Griffin

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom I have done with online and offline, no difference. When I first started on MRA yes I screwd a lot of routes up. But with help and guidance from all of you, I feel I have the route planning down pretty good. I am just frustrated!! When you put an android and an iPhone together on the same bike, same route and you get 2 different results, that to me is an issue with the android/iPhone platform communicating with the program, this is just my opinion. I will reach out to the help desk see if they have any suggestions, I hate 2 give up on a good product, however what I thought was gonna make my bike so much more fun to ride has done the direct opposite!!!

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                    Marinus van Deudekom
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                    #9

                    @D-Griffin just to be shure, you use just the phones and no secundairy screen.
                    In my case it doesn’t matter if I use an Android phone, iPad or Android tablet, the result is always the same. So why wouldn’t it in your case. Beats me and I hope the helpdesk can help you out

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                    Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      I have never seen or even heard of the issues you describe. The app has always worked very well for me. I hope hou can find a solution.

                      2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                        Me to! Im so frustrated with this thing!! But dont want to throw in the towel because I feel it has great potential!!!

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