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Was sind Saisonale Schliessungen? - What are seasonal closures?

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  • Rainer Treichelundefined Offline
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    #3

    I know that, it ist the Text from the dokumentation.
    My route Shows a road closed for roadworks.
    Is that a wrong classification by Here?
    No snow in Bremen
    RT

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    • Rainer Treichelundefined Rainer Treichel

      I know that, it ist the Text from the dokumentation.
      My route Shows a road closed for roadworks.
      Is that a wrong classification by Here?
      No snow in Bremen
      RT

      Brian McGundefined Offline
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      @Rainer-Treichel I would say no it is not a wrong classification by Here,
      rather the "Disable Seasonal Closures" ignores all closed roads

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        so, it is seasonal closed roads without seasonal?

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          Hi, I tried your problem with a closed road in Mönchengladbach and see the same issue.
          If “sessional closure” is active you will be guided around the closed street, if deactivated you drive through the closed street.
          This looks like a bug in the Here map that needs to be noticed to HERE from MRA.

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            Or “it is not a bug, it is a feature”
            Perhaps someone will be able to clarify and explain this.
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              @Corjan-Meijerink Can you have a look into this issue?

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                There is sometimes a thin line between closures due to road works and what we consider seasonal closures. I think it largely depends on a) how a roadwork is communicated by the responsible government and b) how that information is interpreted by HERE. I am under the impression that some longer closures are considered seasonal, while most short closures are considered to be traffic info. I am not sure there is a very strict protocol for it.

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                  There is sometimes a thin line between closures due to road works and what we consider seasonal closures. I think it largely depends on a) how a roadwork is communicated by the responsible government and b) how that information is interpreted by HERE. I am under the impression that some longer closures are considered seasonal, while most short closures are considered to be traffic info. I am not sure there is a very strict protocol for it.

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                  @Con-Hennekens I find the way the "Disable Seasonal Closures" works now quite useful
                  If I am planning a trip several months ahead I do not need my route calculation to take account of every current road closure
                  Many of these closures will have been removed by the time I come to ride the route
                  The "Disable Seasonal Closures" allows me to ignore these closures & plan the route I will most likely ride in several weeks

                  An example - I am heading to france & spain in a few weeks & on the return journey, today the A26 near St Omer has road closures
                  dfb50148-e6da-4315-a5f6-4deb3ef0f53a-image.png
                  Using the "Disable Seanoal Closures" allows me to plan the route more accuratley
                  f0968c69-6d73-4bbf-b70a-9c5adeed95be-image.png

                  If the "Disable Seasonal Closures" is modified to ignore road works then to me it would make sense to also add a switch to enable "Ignore Road Work Closures"

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                    @Con-Hennekens I find the way the "Disable Seasonal Closures" works now quite useful
                    If I am planning a trip several months ahead I do not need my route calculation to take account of every current road closure
                    Many of these closures will have been removed by the time I come to ride the route
                    The "Disable Seasonal Closures" allows me to ignore these closures & plan the route I will most likely ride in several weeks

                    An example - I am heading to france & spain in a few weeks & on the return journey, today the A26 near St Omer has road closures
                    dfb50148-e6da-4315-a5f6-4deb3ef0f53a-image.png
                    Using the "Disable Seanoal Closures" allows me to plan the route more accuratley
                    f0968c69-6d73-4bbf-b70a-9c5adeed95be-image.png

                    If the "Disable Seasonal Closures" is modified to ignore road works then to me it would make sense to also add a switch to enable "Ignore Road Work Closures"

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                    @Brian-McG, indeed!

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                    • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                      @Con-Hennekens I find the way the "Disable Seasonal Closures" works now quite useful
                      If I am planning a trip several months ahead I do not need my route calculation to take account of every current road closure
                      Many of these closures will have been removed by the time I come to ride the route
                      The "Disable Seasonal Closures" allows me to ignore these closures & plan the route I will most likely ride in several weeks

                      An example - I am heading to france & spain in a few weeks & on the return journey, today the A26 near St Omer has road closures
                      dfb50148-e6da-4315-a5f6-4deb3ef0f53a-image.png
                      Using the "Disable Seanoal Closures" allows me to plan the route more accuratley
                      f0968c69-6d73-4bbf-b70a-9c5adeed95be-image.png

                      If the "Disable Seasonal Closures" is modified to ignore road works then to me it would make sense to also add a switch to enable "Ignore Road Work Closures"

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                      @Brian-McG said in Was sind Saisonale Schliessungen? - What are seasonal closures?:

                      add a switch to enable "Ignore Road Work Closures"

                      Since I have already experienced several blockages in the Here map (but the blockage had already been lifted), but the map material had not yet been updated, I agree with this 100%.

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