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  • MartinW
    MartinW
    MartinW
    wrote on last edited by MartinW
    #27

    For illustration, here is an example from my last planning session:

    rtept wpt.jpg

    In this route, I'm about to add a fuel stop. By opening the "POI > search" tab and selecting "Fuel", a gas station symbol pops up.

    I can now add this

    1. As a Waypoint, this will be part of my route
    2. As a POI, this will not be part of my route but a separate spot/point

    When saving as GPX, 1. becomes a route point <rtept> while 2. becomes a waypoint <wpt>

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    • MartinW MartinW

      For illustration, here is an example from my last planning session:

      rtept wpt.jpg

      In this route, I'm about to add a fuel stop. By opening the "POI > search" tab and selecting "Fuel", a gas station symbol pops up.

      I can now add this

      1. As a Waypoint, this will be part of my route
      2. As a POI, this will not be part of my route but a separate spot/point

      When saving as GPX, 1. becomes a route point <rtept> while 2. becomes a waypoint <wpt>

      Marinus van Deudekom
      Marinus van Deudekom
      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXpert
      wrote on last edited by
      #28

      @Martin-Wilcke that's incorrect. Option 2 will just add a visible point on the map and had no effect what so ever on the route. The RouteXperts add those POI's in every viapoint in the route. That viapoint is something important in the route like a castle, museum gasstation etc

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      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

        @Martin-Wilcke that's incorrect. Option 2 will just add a visible point on the map and had no effect what so ever on the route. The RouteXperts add those POI's in every viapoint in the route. That viapoint is something important in the route like a castle, museum gasstation etc

        MartinW
        MartinW
        MartinW
        wrote on last edited by
        #29

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Placement of waypoints:

        that's incorrect. Option 2 will just add a visible point on the map and had no effect what so ever on the route.

        That's what I said: 2. is not part of the route. What exactly is incorrect?

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        • MartinW MartinW

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Placement of waypoints:

          that's incorrect. Option 2 will just add a visible point on the map and had no effect what so ever on the route.

          That's what I said: 2. is not part of the route. What exactly is incorrect?

          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          Marinus van Deudekom
          RouteXpert
          wrote on last edited by
          #30

          @Martin-Wilcke indeed Martin, misread your post🤣

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          • MartinW MartinW

            @Con-Hennekens said in Placement of waypoints:

            A routepoint is just a type of waypoint.

            No.
            According to the GPX specification, both have the same data type (<wptType>), but one is a <wpt> and the other is a <rtept>. Same data type, different objects.

            MotoCon
            MotoCon
            MotoCon
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            #31

            @Martin-Wilcke said in Placement of waypoints:

            No.
            According to the GPX specification, both have the same data type (<wptType>), but one is a <wpt> and the other is a <rtept>. Same data type, different objects.

            Yes.
            Both have the same datatype because they are both waypoints...
            And of course they have different node names, because the need to be treated differently.

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            • MotoCon MotoCon

              @Martin-Wilcke said in Placement of waypoints:

              No.
              According to the GPX specification, both have the same data type (<wptType>), but one is a <wpt> and the other is a <rtept>. Same data type, different objects.

              Yes.
              Both have the same datatype because they are both waypoints...
              And of course they have different node names, because the need to be treated differently.

              9eca918e-9392-475c-aded-0f200c62bae0-image.png

              MartinW
              MartinW
              MartinW
              wrote on last edited by MartinW
              #32

              @Con-Hennekens
              I'm aware of this description, and it's likely the root cause of all this confusion because it mixes up elements and types.

              This becomes clear when you take a look at the schemas:gpx.jpg

              rtept.jpg

              <wpt> is an element, <rtept> is a different element. Both have the same type (<wptType>).

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              • MotoCon MotoCon

                @Martin-Wilcke said in Placement of waypoints:

                No.
                According to the GPX specification, both have the same data type (<wptType>), but one is a <wpt> and the other is a <rtept>. Same data type, different objects.

                Yes.
                Both have the same datatype because they are both waypoints...
                And of course they have different node names, because the need to be treated differently.

                9eca918e-9392-475c-aded-0f200c62bae0-image.png

                MartinW
                MartinW
                MartinW
                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                @Con-Hennekens

                A Trackpoint (<trkpt>) has the same type <wptType>, but you wouldn't call a track point a waypoint, right?

                trkpt.jpg

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                • MartinW MartinW

                  @Con-Hennekens

                  A Trackpoint (<trkpt>) has the same type <wptType>, but you wouldn't call a track point a waypoint, right?

                  trkpt.jpg

                  MotoCon
                  MotoCon
                  MotoCon
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #34

                  @Martin-Wilcke, I am sorry Martin, but how things get a designation in XML code has little to do with how things are called in human language. I am discontinuing this meaningless discussion now.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                  • MotoCon MotoCon

                    @Martin-Wilcke, I am sorry Martin, but how things get a designation in XML code has little to do with how things are called in human language. I am discontinuing this meaningless discussion now.

                    MartinW
                    MartinW
                    MartinW
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #35

                    @Con-Hennekens

                    It's not meaningless, but I agree: we should stop this discussion because it's probably not of interest to most users here.

                    As long as planning and navigation are entirely done with MRA, there is no need to know anything about GPX details. If, however, GPX data are spread around different apps and devices, it's at least good to know that there are other interpretations of waypoints and route points. Just to be aware and not get trapped 🙂

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                    • MartinW MartinW

                      @Con-Hennekens

                      It's not meaningless, but I agree: we should stop this discussion because it's probably not of interest to most users here.

                      As long as planning and navigation are entirely done with MRA, there is no need to know anything about GPX details. If, however, GPX data are spread around different apps and devices, it's at least good to know that there are other interpretations of waypoints and route points. Just to be aware and not get trapped 🙂

                      MotoCon
                      MotoCon
                      MotoCon
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      @Martin-Wilcke, With that I can only agree 😉

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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