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  • Marcel Tasnerundefined Offline
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    Marcel Tasner
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    Hello to community! I am relatively new member and purchased Gold and Next abonnements. Recently I try it out the next app and find some restrictions. I was using Garmin up to now on a motorcycle so I am used to use the maps offline, not relying on network connections. I downloaded the map of my region and noticed that navigation is running ok in offline mode, but if I only want to ride without guidance, but I still want to look to the map, then I don't see any details (smaller roads, buildings etc.). If I zoom it in, it will only get blurry. I read in one post that downloaded maps are HERE from Garmin. But in no navigation mode and still offline there are OSM maps shown. But why not in detail? What is the point? Why cant we see also HERE maps offline not navigating, or why are OSM maps not downloaded for offline use? I don't always need guidance but I still want to see where I am and in offline mode. Or is there some setting for this and I don't know. Thx for help.
    Br, Marcel

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    • Marcel Tasnerundefined Marcel Tasner

      Hello to community! I am relatively new member and purchased Gold and Next abonnements. Recently I try it out the next app and find some restrictions. I was using Garmin up to now on a motorcycle so I am used to use the maps offline, not relying on network connections. I downloaded the map of my region and noticed that navigation is running ok in offline mode, but if I only want to ride without guidance, but I still want to look to the map, then I don't see any details (smaller roads, buildings etc.). If I zoom it in, it will only get blurry. I read in one post that downloaded maps are HERE from Garmin. But in no navigation mode and still offline there are OSM maps shown. But why not in detail? What is the point? Why cant we see also HERE maps offline not navigating, or why are OSM maps not downloaded for offline use? I don't always need guidance but I still want to see where I am and in offline mode. Or is there some setting for this and I don't know. Thx for help.
      Br, Marcel

      Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXperts
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      @Marcel-Tasner the navigation next app uses the Here map nooit the OSM

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        @Marcel-Tasner the navigation next app uses the Here map nooit the OSM

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        Marcel Tasner
        wrote last edited by
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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Hi! Yes, this is clear, but if you dont navigate and you have map shown, then it shows OSM map and you must be online to see all details. Why are offline, if you dont navigate, not shown HERE maps? Do somebody know the answer?

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        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

          @Marcel-Tasner the navigation next app uses the Here map nooit the OSM

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          Marcel Tasner
          wrote last edited by
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          @Marinus-van-Deudekom Hi! Yes, this is clear, but if you dont navigate and you have map shown, then it shows OSM map and you must be online to see all details. Why are offline, if you dont navigate, not shown HERE maps? Do somebody know the answer?

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          • Marcel Tasnerundefined Marcel Tasner

            @Marinus-van-Deudekom Hi! Yes, this is clear, but if you dont navigate and you have map shown, then it shows OSM map and you must be online to see all details. Why are offline, if you dont navigate, not shown HERE maps? Do somebody know the answer?

            Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
            Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
            Marinus van Deudekom
            RouteXperts
            wrote last edited by
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            @Marcel-Tasner mine shows the Here map online and offline. But it does not show the map layer that is only shown when you're navigating. Is that what you mean?

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • Marcel Tasnerundefined Marcel Tasner

              Hello to community! I am relatively new member and purchased Gold and Next abonnements. Recently I try it out the next app and find some restrictions. I was using Garmin up to now on a motorcycle so I am used to use the maps offline, not relying on network connections. I downloaded the map of my region and noticed that navigation is running ok in offline mode, but if I only want to ride without guidance, but I still want to look to the map, then I don't see any details (smaller roads, buildings etc.). If I zoom it in, it will only get blurry. I read in one post that downloaded maps are HERE from Garmin. But in no navigation mode and still offline there are OSM maps shown. But why not in detail? What is the point? Why cant we see also HERE maps offline not navigating, or why are OSM maps not downloaded for offline use? I don't always need guidance but I still want to see where I am and in offline mode. Or is there some setting for this and I don't know. Thx for help.
              Br, Marcel

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              Thomas Neumeyer
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              @Marcel-Tasner Hi, I think it is related to "freies Fahren". A proper map when not following a track or route would be very nice to have. Maybe MRA is working on it already but since weeks quiet silence regarding further development. The good thing is we have the option to select the right app for different needs. Anyway I don't like to switch apps while driving. Let's see if there will be something like that in future. The My Route app is good for routing if I would understand the usage of Silverfox controller. But thats my issue. Thomas

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              • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Thomas Neumeyer

                @Marcel-Tasner Hi, I think it is related to "freies Fahren". A proper map when not following a track or route would be very nice to have. Maybe MRA is working on it already but since weeks quiet silence regarding further development. The good thing is we have the option to select the right app for different needs. Anyway I don't like to switch apps while driving. Let's see if there will be something like that in future. The My Route app is good for routing if I would understand the usage of Silverfox controller. But thats my issue. Thomas

                Marcel Tasnerundefined Offline
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                Marcel Tasner
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                @Thomas-Neumeyer Hi Thomas! Yes, exactly, you know the word for this, "freies Fahren" ...offline without routing. Yes, I can open for example Maps.me, like you said with other app, and have the solution, but why if I already have HERE map local on my phone. It only needs to be shown. Perhaps they will come with some new possibility.

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                  @Marcel-Tasner mine shows the Here map online and offline. But it does not show the map layer that is only shown when you're navigating. Is that what you mean?

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                  Marcel Tasner
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                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom Hi! Yes, the maps are shown, but if you zoom in OSM map to, lets say 10m, then you dont see nothing... Thomas has got my point in the post

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                  • Marcel Tasnerundefined Marcel Tasner

                    Hello to community! I am relatively new member and purchased Gold and Next abonnements. Recently I try it out the next app and find some restrictions. I was using Garmin up to now on a motorcycle so I am used to use the maps offline, not relying on network connections. I downloaded the map of my region and noticed that navigation is running ok in offline mode, but if I only want to ride without guidance, but I still want to look to the map, then I don't see any details (smaller roads, buildings etc.). If I zoom it in, it will only get blurry. I read in one post that downloaded maps are HERE from Garmin. But in no navigation mode and still offline there are OSM maps shown. But why not in detail? What is the point? Why cant we see also HERE maps offline not navigating, or why are OSM maps not downloaded for offline use? I don't always need guidance but I still want to see where I am and in offline mode. Or is there some setting for this and I don't know. Thx for help.
                    Br, Marcel

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                    Hubert Thoring
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                    @Marcel-Tasner

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                    • Marcel Tasnerundefined Marcel Tasner

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom Hi! Yes, the maps are shown, but if you zoom in OSM map to, lets say 10m, then you dont see nothing... Thomas has got my point in the post

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                      Adrian Avram
                      wrote last edited by
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                      @Marcel-Tasner because you have the map in the cache memory of the phone, that's why it disappears when you zoom in.
                      It would be nice to use the already offline maps downloaded onto the phone, not to use internet for this feature.

                      Best regards,
                      Adrian

                      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                      Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                        Yes, I agree, no matter which map layer you choose, you can’t see the details. I’ve downloaded UK offline maps region, whilst this work when used for navigating, when simply trying to display the offline map it doesn’t work, no matter which map layer (OSM, MyRoute-app Default, MyRoute-app Street, HERE (Gold), etc..)

                        Screenshot below shows the cached part of the map with details, but as I pan away from this, you don’t see any details.

                        Why can’t the offline maps be used for both navigation and browsing?

                        IMG_6363 Medium.png

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                        • Rajpundefined Rajp

                          Yes, I agree, no matter which map layer you choose, you can’t see the details. I’ve downloaded UK offline maps region, whilst this work when used for navigating, when simply trying to display the offline map it doesn’t work, no matter which map layer (OSM, MyRoute-app Default, MyRoute-app Street, HERE (Gold), etc..)

                          Screenshot below shows the cached part of the map with details, but as I pan away from this, you don’t see any details.

                          Why can’t the offline maps be used for both navigation and browsing?

                          IMG_6363 Medium.png

                          Adrian Avramundefined Offline
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                          Adrian Avram
                          wrote last edited by
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                          @Rajp said in Offline OSM map details:

                          Why can’t the offline maps be used for both navigation and browsing?

                          That would be a great and positive change to this app...

                          Best regards,
                          Adrian

                          Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                          MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                          Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                          • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                            @Rajp said in Offline OSM map details:

                            Why can’t the offline maps be used for both navigation and browsing?

                            That would be a great and positive change to this app...

                            Thomas Neumeyerundefined Offline
                            Thomas Neumeyerundefined Offline
                            Thomas Neumeyer
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                            @Adrian-Avram Thats definitely right. Some statement from the creator and coder would be nice. Are they working on it? What is the next big change or improvement planned?

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                            • Thomas Neumeyerundefined Thomas Neumeyer

                              @Adrian-Avram Thats definitely right. Some statement from the creator and coder would be nice. Are they working on it? What is the next big change or improvement planned?

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                              Marcel Tasner
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                              @Thomas-Neumeyer In another topic "speed and speed limit display" there is a discussion about showing the speed limit during the free ride. It was replied few days ago this will be implemented in summer this year. So, hopefully this speed limit will also work offline and then I think it is necessary to link the map offline for free ride. Or, perhaps I am mistaken.
                              Br, Marcel

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