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    @Rob-Veerman Just a friendly reminder. We have once agreed to reply in the same language as the post begins. 🙂

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    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

      @Rob-Veerman Just a friendly reminder. We have once agreed to reply in the same language as the post begins. 🙂

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      @Jörgen Request? Yes. Agreed? No. But I am aware of the famous German expression "Ordnung muss sein" (could be translated as 'there must be order'). 😉

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        @Jörgen Request? Yes. Agreed? No. But I am aware of the famous German expression "Ordnung muss sein" (could be translated as 'there must be order'). 😉

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        @Rob-Veerman said in map contrast issues:

        Request? Yes. Agreed? No. But I am aware of the famous German expression "Ordnung muss sein" (could be translated as 'there must be order').

        Nonsense, this is just a friendly gesture towards people who don't speak every language.

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        • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

          @Rob-Veerman said in map contrast issues:

          Request? Yes. Agreed? No. But I am aware of the famous German expression "Ordnung muss sein" (could be translated as 'there must be order').

          Nonsense, this is just a friendly gesture towards people who don't speak every language.

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          @Jörgen Come on Jörgen, you're sensitive. I was just teasing you a bit using that expression. Don't feel offended.

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          • Rob Veermanundefined Rob Veerman

            @Jörgen Come on Jörgen, you're sensitive. I was just teasing you a bit using that expression. Don't feel offended.

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            @Rob-Veerman said in map contrast issues:

            I was just teasing you a bit using that expression. Don't feel offended.

            Don´t worry I am not offended, I am a friendly person like Dutch people.

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            • Dae 0undefined Dae 0

              It’s one of the reasons I only use MRA for planning and Scenic (iOS only) for navigating - Scenic allows complete customisation of colours and also allows you to change font sizes and line/road thicknesses.

              I had the same contrast issue with the default Here! colour scheme that Scenic was using, both using the iPhone as a navigation device and also using the Chigee CarPlay device. These are the colours I use now - not pretty but high contrast and totally readable on my Chigee even in the brightest direct sunshine.

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              @Dae-0 Thanks, I'd not looked at Senic, but currently it seems to have advantages over MRA.
              Direct record in CarPlay, provision of stats for each ride , ave mph, distance, total ride distance etc.
              Things I missed on my Triumph which I had in the BMW app.

              Will have to see if these get developed in MRA as this also leaves me using multiple apps.

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              • HighPeakRiderundefined HighPeakRider

                @Dae-0 Thanks, I'd not looked at Senic, but currently it seems to have advantages over MRA.
                Direct record in CarPlay, provision of stats for each ride , ave mph, distance, total ride distance etc.
                Things I missed on my Triumph which I had in the BMW app.

                Will have to see if these get developed in MRA as this also leaves me using multiple apps.

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                @HighPeakRider said in map contrast issues:

                @Dae-0 Thanks, I'd not looked at Senic, but currently it seems to have advantages over MRA.
                Direct record in CarPlay, provision of stats for each ride , ave mph, distance, total ride distance etc.
                Things I missed on my Triumph which I had in the BMW app.

                Will have to see if these get developed in MRA as this also leaves me using multiple apps.

                Stats are available from an MRA tracklog if you tap the icon.

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                  @HighPeakRider said in map contrast issues:

                  @Dae-0 Thanks, I'd not looked at Senic, but currently it seems to have advantages over MRA.
                  Direct record in CarPlay, provision of stats for each ride , ave mph, distance, total ride distance etc.
                  Things I missed on my Triumph which I had in the BMW app.

                  Will have to see if these get developed in MRA as this also leaves me using multiple apps.

                  Stats are available from an MRA tracklog if you tap the icon.

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                  @Nick-Carthew Yes but not the totals?
                  Not that I've yet used it yet to start collecting any stats yet.

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                  • HighPeakRiderundefined HighPeakRider

                    @Nick-Carthew Yes but not the totals?
                    Not that I've yet used it yet to start collecting any stats yet.

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                    This is the main reason why I still use my zumo XT for nav.
                    With customized colours (in the kmtf files) it offers me high contrast readable map even in brigth sun shine.
                    And the zumo also uses HERE maps ...

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                        😳 When? Before weekend? 👏

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                          @Jörgen After the weekend for Beta.
                          Public release before end of August.

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                          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                            @Jörgen After the weekend for Beta.
                            Public release before end of August.

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                            @Corjan-Meijerink
                            Wong looks good!👍
                            I think it will be useful in bright sunlight.
                            Test it sitting in the garden 😊
                            A bit more closer to Michelin's color scheme would even be better. Red for major roads and a bit more yellow for minor roads?
                            That's my experience with my customized zumoXT colors.

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                              A big improvement.
                              @Rob-Veerman Not every screen is the same. It seems your screen is fine. My Android Auto screen is also fine.
                              But there a lot of screen quality which are worse especially when the brightness is boosted to the max. Then the roads and the area around the roads have almost the same color. This makes it nearly impossible to navigate on.

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                              • Sharon Wilsonundefined Sharon Wilson

                                Does anyone else have issues being unable to make out the roads on the Nav app?
                                I'm using Chigee and all I can see is the navigation line on a white background, the definition of the map is so faint, its nothing like the map displayed on the phone. It is marginally better in my car's car play system but the definition of the map is still very faint.

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                                @Sharon-Wilson I’ve been using MRA for planning for years but not used it for navigation until yesterday. I’ve just got rid of my Garmin Zumo XT and fitted a Chigee AIO-5 CarPlay unit and tested it yesterday only to discover I simply cannot see the roads on the map. I am really disappointed and frankly quite amazed by this. Even on my phone the nav map is hard to see as the contrast between the roads and the background is not great enough.
                                I have read all the replies and it seems this is going to be addressed soon, but not quick enough for me as I’m off to Scotland on Thursday. I guess I’ll be binning MRA in favour of Calimoto or Scenic until MRA get it sorted.

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                                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                  @Jörgen After the weekend for Beta.
                                  Public release before end of August.

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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink Although there is obviously a solution to the problem soon, a small question of understanding from me.
                                  These problems only seem to occur with external devices such as Chigee etc.?
                                  I use an old Pocophone F1 when navigating with the app and not my zumo xt and I don't have any colour issues?
                                  So is it possibly only due to the AndroidAuto or Carplay devices?
                                  Or am I ‘doing something wrong’? 😊

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                                  • Thomas Schäferundefined Thomas Schäfer

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink Although there is obviously a solution to the problem soon, a small question of understanding from me.
                                    These problems only seem to occur with external devices such as Chigee etc.?
                                    I use an old Pocophone F1 when navigating with the app and not my zumo xt and I don't have any colour issues?
                                    So is it possibly only due to the AndroidAuto or Carplay devices?
                                    Or am I ‘doing something wrong’? 😊

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                                    @Thomas-Schäfer said in map contrast issues:

                                    These problems only seem to occur with external devices such as Chigee etc.?

                                    That’s not the case. I’ve had it with two different models of iPhone, and it’s even worse when phone decides to dim the screen due to heat.

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                                    • Thomas Schäferundefined Thomas Schäfer

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink Although there is obviously a solution to the problem soon, a small question of understanding from me.
                                      These problems only seem to occur with external devices such as Chigee etc.?
                                      I use an old Pocophone F1 when navigating with the app and not my zumo xt and I don't have any colour issues?
                                      So is it possibly only due to the AndroidAuto or Carplay devices?
                                      Or am I ‘doing something wrong’? 😊

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                                      @Thomas-Schäfer
                                      I use MRA only on Android Auto. No problems with it.
                                      But to be fair. The current map does not have the greatest contrast compared to other navigation apps
                                      The problem is a typical screen issue. Many screens can reach high brightness levels but not all screens can maintain a good contrast at high brightness levels.
                                      Black on white will always work but light blue on white is very difficult

                                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                        @Thomas-Schäfer
                                        I use MRA only on Android Auto. No problems with it.
                                        But to be fair. The current map does not have the greatest contrast compared to other navigation apps
                                        The problem is a typical screen issue. Many screens can reach high brightness levels but not all screens can maintain a good contrast at high brightness levels.
                                        Black on white will always work but light blue on white is very difficult

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                                        I don't thimk it is simply a screen issue.
                                        For high contrast = readability in sunlight a proper choice of colors is much more important.
                                        A retired photographer recommended me, switch your color tables to greyscale and then choose for landscapes etc. and roads just the opposite colors.
                                        Michelin overlay colors are a good example.

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