Android Tablet or CarPlay?
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Hi, I use an outdoor tablet about a year (a Oukitel RT3) it works perfect for me and I love the extras you do not have with an CarPlay display or Auto Andriod.
@Jörgen How is the RT3's display in direct sunlight? And not being glove friendly is a minus for me.
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I'm using a Samsung tab active 3 works great, robust and weatherproof with physical buttons.
Especially those physical buttons are nice (home, back and switch apps) it also has an extra button that you can assign to anything, in my case open MRA or when held down to open DMD v2.In case you don't want to take the gloves off when needing to press small buttons there's also a stylus pen included and mounted on the protective case.
@Triqster How is your Galaxy Tab Active 3 in direct sunlight? And what Android version do you have on it, and can it be updated to a newer OS? This was the tablet I was considering.
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I’ve just swapped out my Garmin Zumo for a Carpuride, using CarPlay, i wanted easier access to my iphone functions that was in my pocket or exposed on a quad lock mount.
Seems to work well can control it with gloves on and for the odd time I might want full MRA access i can always put my phone on the Quadlock, I keep a case and charging lead under the bike seat if it’s required.I guess it might depend what type for riding and control you want MRA wasn’t my prime concern for moving to CarPlay it was more of integration of phone and bike thing.
@HighPeakRider I tried CarPlay with a Carpuride W702. It was nice, but I didn't like how all the nav apps use the same template and basically look all the same. Also I couldn't use my bike's nav (2022 BMW K1600 GTL) at the same time as CarPlay. Using an Android tablet I can get all the features of MRA, as well as any app that's not designed for CarPlay.
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I haven't tried the Android Auto version of MRA yet, but usually you get a limited feature version of apps in AA. This is intentional, so you don't mess around with all kinds of settings while driving.
Personally, I want the whole app experience, and thus prefer a tablet. -
@Triqster How is your Galaxy Tab Active 3 in direct sunlight? And what Android version do you have on it, and can it be updated to a newer OS? This was the tablet I was considering.
I have the Samsung Active Tab 3
I have just ran an update this morning.
There was no change!One UI Version is still
5.1.1Android Version is still
13I also have a Samsung A9 Tablet.
One UI Version
6.0Android Version
14I am no expert on these updates and will defer to others to pick the bones of what it all means regarding the Samsung Active Tab 3.
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It remains a personal choice. A CarPlay or Android tablet is relatively cheaper than a premium rugged tablet. But Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are less stable because you are dependent on multiple systems.
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It remains a personal choice. A CarPlay or Android tablet is relatively cheaper than a premium rugged tablet. But Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are less stable because you are dependent on multiple systems.
@Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder Do you have any evidence to support that claimed instability?
If I use MRA i’m dependent on multiple systems, your database, your web server, your infrastructure, the internet, your app. Still multiple systems in place so i don’t see adding carplay which is stable from all my years using it in cars is going to make any difference. -
@Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder Do you have any evidence to support that claimed instability?
If I use MRA i’m dependent on multiple systems, your database, your web server, your infrastructure, the internet, your app. Still multiple systems in place so i don’t see adding carplay which is stable from all my years using it in cars is going to make any difference.@HighPeakRider You are dependent on a cable, or Bluetooth, the CarPlay or Android Auto System of your vehicle. App makers have no influence on this. The app itself directly on a device, which is testable.
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@Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder Do you have any evidence to support that claimed instability?
If I use MRA i’m dependent on multiple systems, your database, your web server, your infrastructure, the internet, your app. Still multiple systems in place so i don’t see adding carplay which is stable from all my years using it in cars is going to make any difference.@HighPeakRider said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:
If I use MRA i’m dependent on multiple systems, your database, your web server, your infrastructure, the internet, your app. Still multiple systems in place so i don’t see adding carplay which is stable from all my years using it in cars is going to make any difference.
CP/AA introduce an extra layer of complexity, in hardware as well as in software. And in usage too, since you are operating two devices instead of one. Given the many reported problems and questions about AA/CP in this and many other forums, I'd say that's enough evidence. AA/CP simply introduce extra points of failure.
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@Jörgen How is the RT3's display in direct sunlight? And not being glove friendly is a minus for me.
i know you asked someone else,
the screen is bright enough on full, for my use and in my experience, sorry i do not have any figures to back this up, and the screen is glove friendly, you need gloves that are touch screen compatible, my summer gloves are but winter gloves are not.
i bought this tablet new for £100 GBP
to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
K1600 GTL
Oukitel RT3
iPhone 13 Pro, carpuride 702b -
i know you asked someone else,
the screen is bright enough on full, for my use and in my experience, sorry i do not have any figures to back this up, and the screen is glove friendly, you need gloves that are touch screen compatible, my summer gloves are but winter gloves are not.
i bought this tablet new for £100 GBP
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@paul69 How have you mounted this to the bike, I assume you need to make some kind of custom mount?
Check out the Brodit Mount specifically for the Samsung Active Tab 3.
You can find it on Amazon. -
Just to throw this one in:
Carpe Iter Pad. - As they write on their website, the actual Android is on the way.
There is a BT solution for your handlebars. Often sold with the mentioned Carpe Iter. I bet, you can use them with the Galaxy, too.
Just google "Carpe Iter controller".I want to ride some ACTs and TETs. Therefore I decided to buy this one. - Lets see, how it does on the route.
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Thank you all, I appreciate all the feedback! I just ordered a Galaxy Tab Active5 off eBay in open box condition. It was a bit more expensive than the Active3 but has a slightly brighter screen, faster processor and Android 14. Planning to get the RAM mount for it as well. Looking forward to getting out on the road with this.
2009 BMW K1300GT
Garmin zümo XT
Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount
2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras -
Thank you all, I appreciate all the feedback! I just ordered a Galaxy Tab Active5 off eBay in open box condition. It was a bit more expensive than the Active3 but has a slightly brighter screen, faster processor and Android 14. Planning to get the RAM mount for it as well. Looking forward to getting out on the road with this.
@Ron-Z hope that You Will share your findings with it. Especialy in therms of visibility in heavy sunlight
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@paul69 How have you mounted this to the bike, I assume you need to make some kind of custom mount?
yes i fashioned a holder not pretty but it did the job, you can pics in the thread
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/6209/some-advice-please/21?_=1717264451505i have since changed my bike to a K16, it will not fit now, so i have bought a ram X grip with a flexi arm. i do have the TFT screen and connected app, but at the moment i am not confident in relying solely on that. it is ok when it works, but has let me down occasionally, and it's a pain the a#€e to have to keep stopping, getting phone out of my pocket, or the little cubby hole at the front and resetting everything.
MRA is far more reliable on my tablet. -
@Marinus-van-Deudekom I'll reply here with pics once I have it setup on the bike. I'm still waiting for the RAM mount to arrive. I just received the Active5 tablet, and can say it does get very bright. But I'll post a pic in direct sunlight after it's mounted on the bike..
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yes i fashioned a holder not pretty but it did the job, you can pics in the thread
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/6209/some-advice-please/21?_=1717264451505i have since changed my bike to a K16, it will not fit now, so i have bought a ram X grip with a flexi arm. i do have the TFT screen and connected app, but at the moment i am not confident in relying solely on that. it is ok when it works, but has let me down occasionally, and it's a pain the a#€e to have to keep stopping, getting phone out of my pocket, or the little cubby hole at the front and resetting everything.
MRA is far more reliable on my tablet.@paul69 I have a 2022 K16 GTL, and I'm hoping I can get the RAM mount I ordered setup on the bike. I plan on using the center stem mount, but I'll have to experiment with different RAM arms to see what will fit the best. Do you have a picture of how you mounted yours on the K16?
And I agree about the BMW Connected App, and I just hate that there's no way to set shaping points that don't announce. Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.
2009 BMW K1300GT
Garmin zümo XT
Samsung Galaxy Tab Active 5 w/RAM mount
2023 BMW R18 Transcontinental
iPhone 14 Pro Max w/QuadLock mount
Apple CarPlay in Carpuride W603D w/front-rear cameras -
@paul69 I have a 2022 K16 GTL, and I'm hoping I can get the RAM mount I ordered setup on the bike. I plan on using the center stem mount, but I'll have to experiment with different RAM arms to see what will fit the best. Do you have a picture of how you mounted yours on the K16?
And I agree about the BMW Connected App, and I just hate that there's no way to set shaping points that don't announce. Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.
@Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:
Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.
yes it is, and also constantly dropping out of connection.
i have not received the item yet, i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm, i will attach that to a handlebar mount, i can then place the tablet in any position i need.
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@Ron-Z said in Android Tablet or CarPlay?:
Every waypoint that you use to shape the route for the roads you want is announced, and it gets quite irritating after a while.
yes it is, and also constantly dropping out of connection.
i have not received the item yet, i have bought a Ram X grip and a double ended flexi arm, 450mm, i will attach that to a handlebar mount, i can then place the tablet in any position i need.
@paul69 My setup with the TFT and Connected App has been very stable with my iPhone. I have all the latest updates to the TFT software, Connected App and phone.
But the issue I have with it is the lack of shaping points and the app’s recalculation algorithm. If BMW ever gets these things fixed I might go back to it. Having the ability to control everything - nav, music and phone via the bike’s control wheel and not having to take your hands off the bars is very nice.
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