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  • Peter Huppertzundefined Peter Huppertz

    So... if I tell MRA Navigation Next to use the offline maps, will it still get/update traffic?

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    @Peter-Huppertz, yes. The only ways not getting traffic info is by not having an internet connection, or enabling offline navigation in the settings. As a sidenote: you will either way not (yet) get alternate suggestions while navigating. It only effects (re)calculation.

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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @Peter-Huppertz, yes. The only ways not getting traffic info is by not having an internet connection, or enabling offline navigation in the settings. As a sidenote: you will either way not (yet) get alternate suggestions while navigating. It only effects (re)calculation.

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      @Con-Hennekens ... ok, now I'm confused. 😶
      So, if I enable offline use, I will not get traffic updates even if I have a working data connection?

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      • Peter Huppertzundefined Peter Huppertz

        @Con-Hennekens ... ok, now I'm confused. 😶
        So, if I enable offline use, I will not get traffic updates even if I have a working data connection?

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        @Peter-Huppertz, Yes... You are telling the app to NOT use the internet connection 😉

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

          @Peter-Huppertz, Yes... You are telling the app to NOT use the internet connection 😉

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          @Con-Hennekens Thanks, that confirms my suspicion.

          I was actually hoping to be able to cut down on the data usage by having the map available locally, and only using the data connection for traffic updates.

          "You can't have your cake and eat it too", I guess. 😉

          Speaks fluent English, Dutch, c#, and sarcasm
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          • Peter Huppertzundefined Peter Huppertz

            @Con-Hennekens Thanks, that confirms my suspicion.

            I was actually hoping to be able to cut down on the data usage by having the map available locally, and only using the data connection for traffic updates.

            "You can't have your cake and eat it too", I guess. 😉

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            @Peter-Huppertz If you have the maps of your regions available offline, the app will use those maps instead of going online to render them. This will result in reduced data usage.

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            • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

              @Peter-Huppertz If you have the maps of your regions available offline, the app will use those maps instead of going online to render them. This will result in reduced data usage.

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              @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, I got that. The only thing is that this will block any traffic updates as well, which is a bit of a pity.

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              • Peter Huppertzundefined Peter Huppertz

                @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, I got that. The only thing is that this will block any traffic updates as well, which is a bit of a pity.

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                @Peter-Huppertz In online mode, offline availible maps will reduce data usage!

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                • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                  @Peter-Huppertz In online mode, offline availible maps will reduce data usage!

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                  @Rob-Verhoeff Wait... I get it now. Thanks!

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                    ... um, help?

                    @Rob-Verhoeff says that, if you have offline navigation switched off, Navigation-Next will still use offline maps of you have it.

                    In last week's webinar, @Corjan-Meijerink told us that of you enable offline use, you do not get traffic information (which, to a point, is understandable). But I also heard that, to use the offline maps you downloaded, you have to switch on "Enable offline use", or it will still use the online maps.
                    That contradicts what Rob told me.

                    Soooooo...
                    This morning, I rode off to work. I did not have "Offline navigation" checked.
                    Some 10 kilometers in, I suddenly got a message "Switching to online navigation" or something line that (sorry, I don't have pen and paper ready when riding a motorcycle). And at the same time, a new traffic incident appeared.

                    This SEEMS to indicate that Rob was right after all. Which makes me wonder: dear people who can peer at the code, what is the final word on this?

                    Speaks fluent English, Dutch, c#, and sarcasm
                    Cranky old man since before you were born
                    Rides a Honda NT700VA (aka Dullville), using MRA Navigation Next on a Samsung A54, but only for routes! TomTom now reinstalled for A-B navigation.

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                    • Peter Huppertzundefined Peter Huppertz

                      ... um, help?

                      @Rob-Verhoeff says that, if you have offline navigation switched off, Navigation-Next will still use offline maps of you have it.

                      In last week's webinar, @Corjan-Meijerink told us that of you enable offline use, you do not get traffic information (which, to a point, is understandable). But I also heard that, to use the offline maps you downloaded, you have to switch on "Enable offline use", or it will still use the online maps.
                      That contradicts what Rob told me.

                      Soooooo...
                      This morning, I rode off to work. I did not have "Offline navigation" checked.
                      Some 10 kilometers in, I suddenly got a message "Switching to online navigation" or something line that (sorry, I don't have pen and paper ready when riding a motorcycle). And at the same time, a new traffic incident appeared.

                      This SEEMS to indicate that Rob was right after all. Which makes me wonder: dear people who can peer at the code, what is the final word on this?

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                      @Peter-Huppertz io sono stato via 4 giorni, italia-francia-italia e ho scaricato le mappe.

                      Dove il telefono non navigava o non aveva campo ho avuto diverse difficoltà, molti messaggio "sei online" "sei offline" ma sopratutto non era in grado di caricarmi la traccia nonostante avessi tutte le mappe... e sto lavorando con un Iphone 15 pro.

                      Io per ora lo sto acquistando al mese alla bisogna, troppi problemi. Poi quando funziona gira anche bene, ma ad esempio la traccia fatta in mra da un mio amico aveva un dato percoso che, in visualizzazione era corretto mentre avviata la navigazione era sempre diverso. Abbiamo dovuto importare la traccia su un Garmin... avremmo sbagliato strada.

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                      • Diego Brianzaundefined Diego Brianza

                        @Peter-Huppertz io sono stato via 4 giorni, italia-francia-italia e ho scaricato le mappe.

                        Dove il telefono non navigava o non aveva campo ho avuto diverse difficoltà, molti messaggio "sei online" "sei offline" ma sopratutto non era in grado di caricarmi la traccia nonostante avessi tutte le mappe... e sto lavorando con un Iphone 15 pro.

                        Io per ora lo sto acquistando al mese alla bisogna, troppi problemi. Poi quando funziona gira anche bene, ma ad esempio la traccia fatta in mra da un mio amico aveva un dato percoso che, in visualizzazione era corretto mentre avviata la navigazione era sempre diverso. Abbiamo dovuto importare la traccia su un Garmin... avremmo sbagliato strada.

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                        @Diego-Brianza said in Usage of offline maps versus traffic awareness:

                        io sono stato via 4 giorni, italia-francia-italia e ho scaricato le mappe.
                        Dove il telefono non navigava o non aveva campo ho avuto diverse difficoltà, molti messaggio "sei online" "sei offline" ma sopratutto non era in grado di caricarmi la traccia nonostante avessi tutte le mappe... e sto lavorando con un Iphone 15 pro.

                        A me sembra che tu non abbia scaricato i percorsi. Per navigare completamente offline su un percorso è necessario anche scaricare il percorso. Quando il percorso si apre nell'app, premi il pulsante di download (freccia rivolta verso il basso), scegli la prima opzione Rendi disponibile offline e premi il pulsante giallo di download. Con la mappa offline, il percorso scaricato e l'app impostata per navigare offline, ora sei pronto.

                        To me it sounds as if you did not download the routes. To fully navigate a route offline you also need to download the route. When the route opens in the app, press the download button (arrow pointing down), choose the first option Make offline available and press the yellow download button. With the offline map, downloaded route and app set to navigate offline you are now ready.

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