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  • smuiger smuiger

    Dacht ff een route te maken op de here kaart, Tjee wat is die traag en lelijk. Steeds wachten tot de kaart geladen is.

    En dan het uiterlijk compleet flets. bijna niet te zien waar de weggetjes lopen. Zal wel een here ding zijn maar moet t ff kwijt.

    Drabslab
    Drabslab
    Drabslab
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    @smuiger

    Ik gebruik vaak Google standaard, met TomTom en Michelin als goede aanvullingen.

    Here is inderdaad gewoon lelijk.

    Ik zet wel redelijk wat routepunten op de kaart e vermijd zo verschillen tussen rijden met here en plannen in tomtom.

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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    • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

      @Jack-van-Tilburg

      In the UK the Michelin overlay is quite dissapointing.
      In many cases the Michelin assigns these roads to major A Roads.
      I prefer to stick to the narrow Country Lanes with some grass in the middle. πŸ’ͺ

      Michelin in UK.jpg

      Biker Heaven.
      Country Lane Heaven.jpg

      MotoCon
      MotoCon
      MotoCon
      Alpha tester
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      #12

      @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

      In the UK the Michelin overlay is quite dissapointing.
      In many cases the Michelin assigns these roads to major A Roads.
      I prefer to stick to the narrow Country Lanes with some grass in the middle.

      Yes, if that is what you get for Michelins "Scenic Roads", thats very disappointing indeed... Question remains: how do you identify the "narrow country lanes with grass in the middle" πŸ˜‰

      I agree with @Rob-Verhoeff that in Germany and Austria the Michelin Green roads really are quite useful. In the Netherlands we barely have those roads though...

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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      • M. Schrijver
        M. Schrijver
        M. Schrijver
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        #13

        Om er een route op de maken. Is de HERE inderdaad niet meer zo prettig als het was maar in MRA Next vind ik de kaart juist prettig. Lekker rustig, geen overvloed aan kleuren.

        Uiteindelijk is het vooral een kwestie van wennen, denk ik.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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        • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

          Om er een route op de maken. Is de HERE inderdaad niet meer zo prettig als het was maar in MRA Next vind ik de kaart juist prettig. Lekker rustig, geen overvloed aan kleuren.

          Uiteindelijk is het vooral een kwestie van wennen, denk ik.

          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
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          #14

          @M-Schrijver dat is het zeker! De kaarten van de app en website zijn nu identiek πŸ™‚

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          • MotoCon MotoCon

            @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

            In the UK the Michelin overlay is quite dissapointing.
            In many cases the Michelin assigns these roads to major A Roads.
            I prefer to stick to the narrow Country Lanes with some grass in the middle.

            Yes, if that is what you get for Michelins "Scenic Roads", thats very disappointing indeed... Question remains: how do you identify the "narrow country lanes with grass in the middle" πŸ˜‰

            I agree with @Rob-Verhoeff that in Germany and Austria the Michelin Green roads really are quite useful. In the Netherlands we barely have those roads though...

            Lynchy67
            Lynchy67
            Lynchy67
            Valued contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @Con-Hennekens

            I use the built in Street View in MRA to identify those narrow country lanes.
            I try to string as many as I can together, but obviously I am forced to use some "Main" roads inevitably along the route.

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

              @Con-Hennekens

              I use the built in Street View in MRA to identify those narrow country lanes.
              I try to string as many as I can together, but obviously I am forced to use some "Main" roads inevitably along the route.

              MotoCon
              MotoCon
              MotoCon
              Alpha tester
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

              I use the built in Street View in MRA to identify those narrow country lanes.

              Yes that is a great tool. unfortunately it was not such a great tool for riding in Germany. Mapping Germany was long time forbidden by the German government. But since last summer it is allowed, and I see that they have caught up rather quickly πŸ˜‰

              c954744b-1929-4e1c-985f-7f8ac48a9814-image.png

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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              • MotoCon MotoCon

                @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

                I use the built in Street View in MRA to identify those narrow country lanes.

                Yes that is a great tool. unfortunately it was not such a great tool for riding in Germany. Mapping Germany was long time forbidden by the German government. But since last summer it is allowed, and I see that they have caught up rather quickly πŸ˜‰

                c954744b-1929-4e1c-985f-7f8ac48a9814-image.png

                Lynchy67
                Lynchy67
                Lynchy67
                Valued contributor
                wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                #17

                @Con-Hennekens

                Glad to hear that is resolved now.
                Happy days for you. (And me at some point in the future)

                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                • Dikke Wim
                  Dikke Wim
                  Dikke Wim
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                  wrote on last edited by Dikke Wim
                  #18

                  @Rob-Verhoeff
                  In mijn ervaring heb je helemaal gelijk m.b.t. de groene wegen van de Michelin kaart. Nog even ter verduidelijking (aanvulling) voor andere lezers:

                  • In Zwitserland zijn er niet veel alternatieve wegen. Groen is dan de keuze.

                  • In andere landen zijn het vaak brede wegen die wel mooi zijn, maar vooral voor automobilisten. Parallele wegen (die er in Zwitserland niet zijn), zijn vaak de betere keuze voor motorrijders.

                  • Check daarom steeds of de parallelwegen niet mooier zijn (smaller/beter/leuker) via de optie Streetview in MyRoute App.

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                  • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                    @M-Schrijver dat is het zeker! De kaarten van de app en website zijn nu identiek πŸ™‚

                    Dikke Wim
                    Dikke Wim
                    Dikke Wim
                    Valued contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                    "Ieder nadeel hebt z'n voordeel" zoals een bekend Nederland filosoof ooit zei.

                    BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                    • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                      @Con-Hennekens

                      I use the built in Street View in MRA to identify those narrow country lanes.
                      I try to string as many as I can together, but obviously I am forced to use some "Main" roads inevitably along the route.

                      Dikke Wim
                      Dikke Wim
                      Dikke Wim
                      Valued contributor
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @Lynchy67

                      I do exactly the same.

                      In my experience it is in between 30-40 kmh. specially in the UK on narrow roads without a view.

                      I'm curious, what is your average speed on those roads?

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                      • Dikke Wim Dikke Wim

                        @Lynchy67

                        I do exactly the same.

                        In my experience it is in between 30-40 kmh. specially in the UK on narrow roads without a view.

                        I'm curious, what is your average speed on those roads?

                        Lynchy67
                        Lynchy67
                        Lynchy67
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                        wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                        #21

                        @Dikke-Wim

                        My speed on the Country Lanes is based on how far I can see ahead.
                        In the UK many of these Country Lanes are set to 60 mph but I rarely reach that speed unless it is a straight road.
                        There are far to many hazards on the country lanes!
                        :Horses (I always stop and switch off the engine), Walkers (I slow down), Dogs not on leads (I Stop), blind bends, boy racers, Cyclists, delivery vans and my favourite is Suicidal Pheasants!

                        Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                        Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                        Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                        Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                          @Dikke-Wim

                          My speed on the Country Lanes is based on how far I can see ahead.
                          In the UK many of these Country Lanes are set to 60 mph but I rarely reach that speed unless it is a straight road.
                          There are far to many hazards on the country lanes!
                          :Horses (I always stop and switch off the engine), Walkers (I slow down), Dogs not on leads (I Stop), blind bends, boy racers, Cyclists, delivery vans and my favourite is Suicidal Pheasants!

                          Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                          Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                          Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                          Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          @Lynchy67 Hahaha, thanks for sharing that!

                          And as @nick-carthew would add: trees fallen over and blocking your path πŸ˜‰

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                          • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                            @Dikke-Wim

                            My speed on the Country Lanes is based on how far I can see ahead.
                            In the UK many of these Country Lanes are set to 60 mph but I rarely reach that speed unless it is a straight road.
                            There are far to many hazards on the country lanes!
                            :Horses (I always stop and switch off the engine), Walkers (I slow down), Dogs not on leads (I Stop), blind bends, boy racers, Cyclists, delivery vans and my favourite is Suicidal Pheasants!

                            Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                            Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:52.jpeg

                            Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                            Snapshot 02-02-2024 08:51.jpeg

                            TorqueRider
                            TorqueRider
                            TorqueRider
                            wrote on last edited by TorqueRider
                            #23

                            @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

                            Country Lanes are set to 60 mph.....

                            Yes, and then I think; how??? πŸ€” πŸ˜‰

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                            • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                              @Lynchy67 said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

                              Country Lanes are set to 60 mph.....

                              Yes, and then I think; how??? πŸ€” πŸ˜‰

                              MotoCon
                              MotoCon
                              MotoCon
                              Alpha tester
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              Well it is not a minimum speed is it πŸ˜‰

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                              • MotoCon MotoCon

                                Well it is not a minimum speed is it πŸ˜‰

                                TorqueRider
                                TorqueRider
                                TorqueRider
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                                #25

                                @Con-Hennekens
                                you surprise me
                                If only I knew that sooner.

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                                • pieter v
                                  pieter v
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                                  #26

                                  Ja, inderdaad. Vandaag route gemaakt en here kaarten laden zeer traag

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                                  • hvdv hvdv

                                    @smuiger

                                    Klopt, is inderdaad een Here dingetje. Persoonlijk leg ik er de OSM kaartlaar overheen

                                    Bart Geerts
                                    Bart Geerts
                                    Bart Geerts
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                                    #27

                                    @MRA-C Hoe doe je dat? een OSM kaartlaag er overheen leggen? ik kan niet vinden waar en hoe ik dat moet doen.

                                    alvast bedankt voor de reply!

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                                    • Bart Geerts Bart Geerts

                                      @MRA-C Hoe doe je dat? een OSM kaartlaag er overheen leggen? ik kan niet vinden waar en hoe ik dat moet doen.

                                      alvast bedankt voor de reply!

                                      TorqueRider
                                      TorqueRider
                                      TorqueRider
                                      wrote on last edited by TorqueRider
                                      #28

                                      @Bart-Geerts
                                      Op het icoontje rechtsboven in de getoonde kaart klikken (dus niet in een menu). En dan kun je kiezen tussen verschillende kaarten.
                                      Handleiding kaartlagen

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                                      • Bart Geerts Bart Geerts

                                        @MRA-C Hoe doe je dat? een OSM kaartlaag er overheen leggen? ik kan niet vinden waar en hoe ik dat moet doen.

                                        alvast bedankt voor de reply!

                                        nomko
                                        nomko
                                        nomko
                                        Banned
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                                        #29

                                        @Bart-Geerts said in Here kaart lelijk en traag:

                                        @MRA-C Hoe doe je dat? een OSM kaartlaag er overheen leggen? ik kan niet vinden waar en hoe ik dat moet doen.

                                        alvast bedankt voor de reply!

                                        In deze menu tem selecteer je de standaard kaart lay-out:
                                        4b94efd6-f9e7-415f-a8d5-2823185f2fe6-image.png

                                        En met de knop zoals met de rode pijl in de screenshot aangegeven selecteer je de overlay kaart:
                                        b9b412f3-e43c-4709-94db-77b1e57a33c1-image.png

                                        En zoals je kan zien in de laatste screenshot heb ik nu de HERE kaart als standaard kaart lay-out en gebruik ik de OpenStreetMap kaart als overlay kaart.

                                        Let wel op:
                                        Het kan gebeuren dat de route die je aanmaakt op een HERE kaart kan afwijken van bv de OpenStreetMap kaart. Dan moet je bv denken aan dat op de HERE map de routelijn precies over de wegen valt die je hebt geselecteerd, maar op de OSM kaart/overlay dat de routelijn er net naast ligt. Niks van aantrekken, de kaart die als standaard is ingesteld is leidend hierin.

                                        Dit heb ik wel eens meegemaakt met het maken/aanpassen van routes op bepaalde stukken dat alles netjes staat op de HERE kaart, maar als ik dan OSM inschakel als overlay, dat de route dan net naast de weg valt (in de berm zeg maar).

                                        Hieronder zie je een voorbeeld van hoe de ene kaart de andere kaart niet volgt qua route:

                                        afaeb164-de2b-4f78-8b96-aed769ea32d2-image.png

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